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Sep 25, 2024
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Ungoy
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It isn't nearly as cut and dry as you seem to think it is.
Hill may end up spurning Utah, just like Whittingham spurned BYU.
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Utefan/booster friend of mine is pretty confident that Kyle and Ludwig will both
Abe Froman
Sep 25, 4:25pm
Hope they aren't the last ones laughing.
Soupie
Sep 25, 4:28pm
Delusion is strong with that one.
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 4:30pm
Losing jay Hill to Utah in this scenario is my biggest football fear.
U.E. McGill
Sep 25, 4:30pm
Hill only goes to Utah if he gets HC. DC at Utah is a lateral move.
WJCougar
Sep 25, 5:01pm
Depends on the money.
Jdoc
Sep 25, 5:10pm
Between Ryan Smith and Ensign Peak, we got this.
All-American
Sep 25, 6:35pm
Depends on $$$. Morgan Scalley's current salary is 1.4M.
OrsoNero
Sep 25, 5:11pm
They absolutely will when he’s the HC in waiting. Given the momentum of the
bigbossbyu
Sep 25, 5:12pm
He's the same age as Sitake, though. That means Sitake would have to get fired.
OrsoNero
Sep 25, 5:19pm
And how old is Morgan Scalley?
CougarScrub
Sep 25, 6:20pm
Why would you think utah would pay more than BYU for the same position?
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 6:22pm
Because they already are.
OrsoNero
Sep 25, 6:44pm
I guess you forgot that TV revenue will be the same now. smh
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 6:52pm
I don’t know if you follow cfb
hereforlaughs
Sep 25, 10:17pm
Uh....you realize you just pointed out that next year BYU and Utah...
WJCougar
Sep 25, 10:34pm
Shhhh… Math is hard….
Ungoy
Sep 25, 11:14pm
Lol
hereforlaughs
9:20am
Yeah, Hill should absolutely not be designated HC-in-waiting under a younger Sitake
krindorr
Sep 25, 7:23pm
Just pay him and give him a longer term contract than assistants typically get. Being a DC would have to be way more fun
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 8:38pm
$1.4 is a long ways off Kalani’s salary. Not sure where you’re getting your info
CPAcoug87
Sep 25, 6:48pm
Pretty sure Morgan is making $5M a yr
Cougarite
Sep 25, 9:12pm
Hill will get a head coaching job somewhere good. He's not going to Utah to be
Plantagenet
Sep 25, 10:53pm
Chris Burgess made a lateral move to Utah.
Parker Schnabel
Sep 25, 5:38pm
Hmm, where is Burgess coaching now? Oh yeah, lateral back to BYU.
valcorger
Sep 25, 5:43pm
Lateral 😂
hereforlaughs
Sep 25, 7:03pm
It isn't nearly as cut and dry as you seem to think it is.
Ungoy
Sep 25, 7:08pm
Whit had been at Utah for over a decade. Hill has been there for 2 years.
Scratch
Sep 25, 9:00pm
He also hasn’t been at Utah in 10 years. Who knows what’s changed in his mind.
Ungoy
Sep 25, 9:35pm
I believe that 100%. I actually think Scalley will promote someone on staff.
Scratch
Sep 25, 9:36pm
I never said he wouldn’t, just that it’s not so cut and dry as some would say.
Ungoy
Sep 25, 10:04pm
Bubble burster...
IceBlue
Sep 25, 8:47pm
Takes a step down
hereforlaughs
Sep 25, 10:12pm
Nah Scallywag will hire Lewis Powell as DC
threezeroeight
Sep 25, 5:24pm
Hey, Jay. How would you like to work for a younger and less proven head coach?
Art Director
Sep 25, 4:30pm
RE: Hey, Jay. How would you like to work for a younger and less proven head
Sparkling Delirium
Sep 25, 4:31pm
Unproven is better than proven to be long term mediocre.
ALUF 1990
Sep 25, 8:51pm
In this case, I think the unknown is better than what Kalani has proven.
Scratch
Sep 25, 4:43pm
RE: In this case, I think the unknown is better than what Kalani has proven.
valcorger
Sep 25, 4:49pm
Sorry, does CB love Kalani now? Sorry, I can't keep up on whether he's awesome
Scratch
Sep 25, 5:02pm
Doesn't matter. Either way his situation at BYU is better ghat going to utah.
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 5:38pm
RE: Doesn't matter. Either way his situation at BYU is better ghat going to
Scratch
Sep 25, 5:46pm
Please tell us what utah has that BYU doesn't besides lame fans.
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 6:02pm
Success? Talent? NIL $$$? No honor code? Higher paid coaches?
Scratch
Sep 25, 6:24pm
Source on the higher paid coaches?
CPAcoug87
Sep 25, 6:50pm
I guess you forgot that TV revenue will be the same now. Sorry to burst your bubble but utah football is more likely to
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 6:54pm
Scalley >>>>>>>> Sitake. Utah will be just fine.
ALUF 1990
Sep 25, 8:54pm
We'll see. You might want to check out how the coaches who follow a program's winningest coach fare but I'm sure that
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 9:15pm
RE: Scalley >>>>>>>> Sitake. Utah will be just fine.
WYC_Coug297
5:20pm
Coach envy looks good on you.
Corn Pop
Sep 25, 8:48pm
CB has hundreds of opinions
ColonelMustard
Sep 25, 7:51pm
You would think that. hahaha
ManicBlue
Sep 25, 4:49pm
Honestly, I think it's more likely that when Scalley does take over,
Ungoy
Sep 25, 4:52pm
Yep
DavisCoCoug
Sep 25, 4:56pm
Coaches that have never struck out on their own tend to struggle.
Corn Pop
Sep 25, 5:05pm
If you think that, then Hill is better off staying at BYU to become the head coach when Kalani is let go.
Atmospheric_Cougar
Sep 25, 5:52pm
If Kalani is let go then Hill's the next head coach if he's at Utah. Ironically
Scratch
Sep 25, 6:01pm
Uh....BYU hired Bronco who was the DC for Crowton.
WJCougar
Sep 25, 8:50pm
That’s why I said BYU is different.
Scratch
Sep 25, 9:02pm
What were you saying about Kyle his first couple years in the Pac 12?
Goosefrabba
Sep 25, 9:55pm
The problem is, I could see all of those things happening, minus a deep playoff
Sparkling Delirium
Sep 25, 4:31pm
Might be better than the deep playoff run being the only thing that happens
SoBlueitHurts
4:48pm
Now I really want to make a "Which is worse" poll
krindorr
4:56pm
I said "might", those both sound awful. The losing top players is terrible
SoBlueitHurts
5:29pm
I don't think losing Jay Hill to Utah temporarily is a big deal
Strawhat4life
Sep 25, 4:36pm
Wrong would be demoralizing especially if he took all his Weber St recruits
HeyU
Sep 25, 6:02pm
That's the biggest issue with losing Hill short term - the recruits that would follow him
krindorr
Sep 25, 7:19pm
Absolutely it’s possible that’s not my argument, it would be devastating to BYU
HeyU
Sep 25, 7:21pm
Agreed, which is why I disagree (w strawhat) that losing him temporarily wouldn't be that bad
krindorr
Sep 25, 7:51pm
There is no way he’ll get the same autonomy to run the defense the way he wants
deliciousmocha
Sep 25, 4:36pm
I don’t think Scalley hires Hill, but he is going to give his coordinators
NarfUte
Sep 25, 4:50pm
he promotes colton swann anyway.
riboflavin
Sep 25, 4:51pm
This^
NarfUte
Sep 25, 4:53pm
ribo sighting!
Abe Froman
Sep 25, 5:19pm
That seems like the most likely thing
Strawhat4life
Sep 25, 7:59pm
Does Jay Hill still have kids that attend BYU?
Ungoy
Sep 25, 4:39pm
BYU has more $$ than Utah
docrick
Sep 25, 4:43pm
Utah has unlimited funds by way of the tax purse. Your and my dollars, forced.
Brandoblueblood
Sep 25, 6:34pm
If they did, they wouldn't have such a crappy basketball coach
AZ Coug
Sep 25, 8:43pm
I'd stop listening to your friend...
AltTabbins
Sep 25, 4:52pm
Let's just beat them and go to the playoffs instead then.
inertiaman
Sep 25, 4:53pm
Hill is not leaving BYU to be the DC at Utah. Hill will leave for an HC job.
WJCougar
Sep 25, 5:01pm
At CC luncheon today Kalani said Jay Hill is very happy to be at BYU
Greg4BYU
Sep 25, 5:03pm
BYU is unburdened by the past
docrick
Sep 25, 5:17pm
Nobody knows what will happen. When a big program needs a head coach they will
Plantagenet
Sep 25, 10:56pm
Not at all likely. Not a good move for Hill and we have money
WallaX2
Sep 25, 5:29pm
Feels like one of those things that I would hate so much and, therefore, likely
TrustMeIKnow
Sep 25, 6:11pm
Oh it's fun to think of what they do with our tax dollars, isn't it?
Brandoblueblood
Sep 25, 6:31pm
Kyle will retire this yr. Scalley will be HC. Utah’s new DC is already on their
Forest Green
Sep 25, 7:50pm
If they made it to the playoffs, Whitt would retire. I believe that much.
Great38
Sep 25, 8:57pm
That is shaping up to be likely, unfortunately.
TheLoneCougar
Sep 25, 9:26pm
This would be a good year for BYU to defeat the Utes.
Plantagenet
Sep 25, 10:52pm
That'd mean Kalani would be able to hire his ol' pal, Tuiaki back on as DC.
BlueFever
10:55am
What benefit would Hill have? He isn’t going to make much money. He isn’t going
cougaman
5:54pm
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