Gary couldn't beat Jake out in camp which is frightening. I think there is a realistic possibility that Gary can't/won't

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Sep 8, 2024
12:49:47pm

shimmy In play, run(s)

Gary couldn't beat Jake out in camp which is frightening. I think there is a realistic possibility that Gary can't/won't

perform better than Jake and making the change at this juncture will be worse for the team overall.

If we drop a game or go down then you have to give him a shot, but people calling for Gary to get a shot now are ignoring the likelihood that he sucks worse than Jake and the possibility it messes with the team dynamic.

Putting in the other guy isn't always the best decision.

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Author

Time

Gerry deserves a shot

Cdun101

Sep 8, 12:30pm

Arod says....

WJCougar

Sep 8, 12:31pm

Change for changes sake isn't always the best answer.

shimmy

Sep 8, 12:31pm

It's change because of underperforming

Sep 8, 12:32pm

The sad thing is that maybe he's not underperforming

fattycoug

Sep 8, 12:36pm

Gary couldn't beat Jake out in camp which is frightening. I think there is a realistic possibility that Gary can't/won't

shimmy

Sep 8, 12:49pm

I suspect Jake having more eligibility may have played a role in who won

Sep 8, 12:54pm

ARod quickly denied this as being a reason Jake won the job

AFcoug7

Sep 8, 2:06pm

...also, Jake knew the playbook better, but starting Bohanon fixes that quickly

Sep 8, 2:10pm

Then ARod should be fired tomorrow. Grooming JR is the worst waste of resources imagineable. If the season is over play

shimmy

Sep 8, 2:26pm

The season is over? Worst waste of resources? Hyperbole is fun

Sep 8, 2:30pm

0 hyperbole. Choosing Jake because he has eligibility would be the stupidest decision possible.

shimmy

Sep 8, 3:04pm

If you think two guys are even, do you take the guy with eligibility remaining

Sep 8, 3:15pm

ARod should be fired tomorrow for Grooming …jr

44C

Sep 8, 4:22pm

With the injured RBs a more mobile Gerry might be better.

ParentingNotForSissy

Sep 8, 1:41pm

Correct. He had all of fall camp to show.

Love Cougs

Sep 8, 2:43pm

Uhhh did you watch the game

Kolobrdm

Sep 8, 1:58pm

It wouldn’t be just for change sake it would be because of performance

Sep 8, 12:33pm

It was one game, which they won. Every time a player doesn't meet your

SoCalCoug

Sep 8, 1:19pm

He has only had an above average performance once as a starter

Sep 8, 1:32pm

...and it was against an FCS team, which he should have had stellar output vs

Sep 8, 2:30pm

Isn’t one game look at his stats for six there is an obvious trend

Kolobrdm

Sep 8, 2:00pm

Six games of live work. Pretty clear trend

Cougulator

Sep 8, 4:14pm

True. But sometimes it is. And in this case, the change wouldn’t just be for

bluesloth

Sep 8, 12:33pm

What about change to improve?

Longseason

Sep 8, 12:34pm

If you believe in Gary then sure.

shimmy

Sep 8, 12:42pm

Well, it’s not change “for changes sake.” It’s change for improving the team’s

BlueDiver

Sep 8, 2:00pm

You don’t think Jake’s performance was horrendous Friday?

runningryan

Sep 8, 3:14pm

I like what you say…So don’t change the DEFENSE!

44C

Sep 8, 4:18pm

It will take a loss to see a QB change

Sep 8, 12:32pm

Doubt it. If BYU had loss at SMU do you

Coug98

Sep 8, 12:36pm

Yes, I think a loss definitely would have had them considering it

Sep 8, 12:39pm

If we go down 20 against Wyoming they'd probably change them out.

shimmy

Sep 8, 12:50pm

I kind of liked what SMU did. Play both QBs 2 series, go with the more

CougarTwins

Sep 8, 12:32pm

I like that stone was getting stonewalled... so he was benched.

Sep 8, 12:34pm

Worked great for them.

kccougar

Sep 8, 1:42pm

We effectively played stone the entire game. As bad as their offense was it was

cougsareforreal

Sep 8, 1:53pm

With Martin out, going to a more mobile QB seems like a good move. If they don’t have to respect the run, the

Sep 8, 3:47pm

Gerry as RB?

Darth Paul

Sep 8, 12:35pm

Yes, that is crazy

fattycoug

Sep 8, 12:40pm

The problem is Wyoming wont likely tell us much either way

stansburycoug

Sep 8, 12:35pm

Wyoming appears to be very bad.

NYC and Japan

Sep 8, 8:02pm

If ARod is calling the plays I don't think it matters which QB starts. It's not

rebelCoug

Sep 8, 12:44pm

Beast approach would be to go up big early then have Gerry play entire 2nd half

SV72 Sale

Sep 8, 12:44pm

Even if that happens ARod probably won't let him pass the ball. He'll call all

rebelCoug

Sep 8, 12:45pm

RE: Even if that happens ARod probably won't let him pass the ball. He'll call

Beer Stud

Sep 8, 1:34pm

I agree. Give him the second half if things are under control. Give him time

texaskevin

Sep 8, 12:58pm

Deserves? Based on what exactly?

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 1:11pm

He was good enough to recruit as a transfer. Our QB1 is having serious issues. He has better stats historically.

AltTabbins

Sep 8, 1:26pm

Despite all that Gerry had almost no offers

I'mBatman

Sep 8, 1:39pm

I mean Jake was in community college when he transferred to BYU. Not saying Gerry is going to take us to the CFP

AltTabbins

Sep 8, 1:45pm

People didn't want to gamble on if he will heal in time for the season

viper

Sep 8, 3:00pm

Because he’s already lost to BYU and Jake hasn’t. I mean if he deserves it

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 2:18pm

Gerry isn't playing against BYU. Jake has never played BYU.. I dont get your logic at all.

AltTabbins

Sep 8, 3:59pm

Look, Gerry is 1-6 in his last 7 games started/played. He has not played in a

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 4:19pm

He has won games as a starter against p4 speed

stansburycoug

Sep 8, 5:39pm

Do you have a TIC meter? Just attempting to be as ridiculous as so many on here

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 5:48pm

Jake is 0-5 against P4 speed. Its not terribly ridiculous

stansburycoug

Sep 8, 5:55pm

Isn’t SMU in the ACC? Oh yea, my bad, that fact doesn’t fit the narrative.

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 6:11pm

Ya my bad. I meant his QBR over 50

stansburycoug

Sep 8, 6:23pm

This was their second game in the ACC

chismoso

Sep 8, 7:31pm

Actually third….but, okay

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 7:48pm

Oh. Three games and a couple months since they were G5

chismoso

Sep 8, 7:54pm

Did I say they were a “big bad P4” program or did I merely say that they are in

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 8:02pm

You really sold it

chismoso

Sep 8, 8:29pm

Merely in response to the previous poster who said JR was 0-5 vs P4 competition.

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 8:33pm

We never recruited him. He recruited us.

2FarGone

Sep 8, 3:59pm

Yes, he should get the nod and this gives Jake a chance to mentally chill too

Honor Code

Sep 8, 4:00pm

If you are a liability you are not an asset, it’s simple.

NonmormonYfan89

Sep 8, 4:09pm

Yeah, he had his "shot" to win the job in fall camp and it didn't happen. The

basman

Sep 8, 4:22pm

Wyoming is bad; JR will look great, tells us nothing we don’t already know

Cougulator

Sep 8, 4:22pm

CB three weeks ago....

byu_coug

Sep 8, 5:23pm

Yeah, I object!

AzCugrFan

Sep 8, 5:53pm

There is CLEARLY something Jake cannot handle in a real game

DazeofBlue

Sep 8, 6:07pm

What ever QB is played. Don't play a injured one.

ParentingNotForSissy

Sep 8, 6:34pm

If we start the conspiracy on CB that its because Gerry is black Tom Holmoe

Sircumference

Sep 8, 7:07pm

Yeah, but he will also eliminate all end zone seats in the stadium.

bluesloth

Sep 8, 7:12pm

If Jake continues to play like he did vs SMU, Gerry will get his chance.

Spiff

Sep 8, 8:05pm

If only this were the first post in this thread following the OP…..

UMWolverine

Sep 8, 8:19pm

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