It's definitely much cheaper than it used to be, even just 10 or 15 years ago

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Jul 22, 2024
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Skeptical Optimist

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Division Bell Recovering

Jul 22, 6:10am

Here is the "on time" arrival data for the major airlines in 2020. Delta is the only one that was better than 80%. "On

HarlemCoug

Jul 22, 6:16am

What impacts airlines in arrival time that’s beyond their control? I’m not askin

SBB

Jul 22, 6:21am

I'm not really qualified to answer but I'd guess things like delays with bags and freight, backup on the runway (I hate

HarlemCoug

Jul 22, 6:41am

I think a lot of it is the number of regional jets

Traveling Coug

Jul 22, 8:49am

So many variables, any one of which can set off a cascade of bad timing.

Archaea

Jul 22, 12:51pm

1. Weather, 2. Delayed earlier flight ahead of yours, 3) Gate availability

Ripliancum

Jul 22, 9:34am

Consumers constantly told airlines that price was the only thing they value

Skeptical Optimist

Jul 22, 6:18am

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Division Bell

Jul 22, 6:20am

In began flying in 1968. Open-ended ticket from Montreal to Glasgow was $400.

Everyman

Jul 22, 7:03am

You’re in a chair in the sky. It doesn’t need to have frills. However, I hate

NorthernLight

Jul 22, 8:15am

I would like to know how many people think flying is cheap?

Bluedomination

Jul 22, 9:04am

It's definitely much cheaper than it used to be, even just 10 or 15 years ago

Skeptical Optimist

Jul 22, 9:25am

My flights MSP-DEN-SLC are less expensive than driving to the airport

Ripliancum

Jul 22, 9:42am

Except paying for reliable flights was never offered as an option.

CougarMandias

Jul 22, 9:13am

When airlines gain control of the weather and airports have thrice the gates

Ripliancum

Jul 22, 1:34pm

They didn't have weather in the 1970s.

CougarMandias

Jul 22, 2:27pm

I was a kid/teen when smoking was banned- I remember looking forward to

SBB

Jul 22, 6:19am

No disrespect but.. I honestly don't care about a meal, hot towels, or the other amenities you mentioned.

greatbam

Jul 22, 6:47am

And airlines don’t do that any more

Archaea

Jul 22, 6:56am

I'll have to take it from you frequent flyers because I've rarely had too many bad travel days. The worst airline..

greatbam

Jul 22, 7:10am

Airlines are busses now

Archaea

Jul 22, 7:14am

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Division Bell

Jul 22, 7:19am

Busses that FLY THOUGH THE AIR and get across the world in factions of the time of other modes of travel.

greatbam

Jul 22, 7:20am

Spirit provides exactly what they intend to. Because they pack more people on

TailgateU

Jul 22, 3:06pm

On the other hand, flying is a lot more cheap and accessible. Not everyone

shoganai

Jul 22, 6:47am

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Division Bell

Jul 22, 6:57am

But if you want to, you can still have the premium experience.

DubuMfalme

Jul 22, 7:36am

The first class is not worth paying for.

Archaea

Jul 22, 8:09am

It depends.... your statement is too absolute.

HarlemCoug

Jul 22, 8:44am

The best first class are Emirates and Singapore

Archaea

Jul 22, 10:20am

I would add Qatar Airlines as well. Singapore Suites class is unbelievable

morningcalmcougar

Jul 22, 11:42am

Only if your company or client is paying for it.

Archaea

Jul 22, 12:49pm

Depends on your finances. The cost to fly private from SLC to CDG is huge compared to Delta 1. For some, DL1 is a

HarlemCoug

Jul 22, 1:37pm

Wish I had the finances where that was a calculation I needed to make!

morningcalmcougar

Jul 22, 3:20pm

Those clubs rarely work on long haul flights. The issue is that you need to have a plane big enough to carry tons of

HarlemCoug

Jul 22, 3:37pm

Yep, only took suites once, when client paid for it. I was in the middle of a

morningcalmcougar

Jul 22, 1:43pm

But but but I have a right to a premium experience at a ULCC price. 🙂

Ripliancum

Jul 22, 9:44am

I actually need the barf bag for the smell of airplane food. It is bad. I can’t

Idacoug

Jul 22, 6:48am

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Division Bell

Jul 22, 7:02am

So many things have gotten so much better over time. But some have gotten worse.

Mises

Jul 22, 6:52am

Flying is cheaper and safer than ever, but yes. Less bougie.

Samsonite

Jul 22, 6:54am

Far, far safer. The "wheels falling off" comment is silly.

DubuMfalme

Jul 22, 7:30am

Only about 100 total deaths in the last 20 years on commercial flights in the US. The claim that the drive to/from the

HarlemCoug

Jul 22, 8:05am

Safer? Is that true…

Pretorian

Jul 22, 8:20am

We are safer today by far. MIT researchers say your odds of dying today are 38x less than they were in 1975.

HarlemCoug

Jul 22, 8:41am

Today’s air travel is like bus travel.

Everyman

Jul 22, 7:04am

The industry has also gone where the market dictated. As much as a cushy seat

TailgateU

Jul 22, 9:43am

Today's domestic US air travel. Most foreign carriers provide a meal and better reliability.

unctoothman

Jul 22, 11:08am

That is not all on the airlines

Traveling Coug

Jul 22, 11:33am

When I travel for work (much of it international), I typically travel business class. The first time I traveled business

specsauce

Jul 22, 7:25am

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Division Bell

Jul 22, 7:28am

The first time I flew international business class, I had a lie flat window seat but it

Skeptical Optimist

Jul 22, 7:30am

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Division Bell

Jul 22, 7:33am

Agreed. Makes me sad that it seems Korean has taken all of their A380s out of use.

specsauce

Jul 22, 8:06am

I would travel any airline that knocks of time in air and reduces numbers of lay

kotacoug

Jul 22, 8:21am

Business Class is better, but

Traveling Coug

Jul 22, 11:37am

I’ve started declining the meals. They are so bad

Bert609

Jul 22, 8:06am

I always try to get direct flights

BYU Grounds

Jul 22, 8:27am

I remember flying from Buenos Aires to Sao Paulo sitting between two smokestacks

blue13

Jul 22, 9:50am

I remember sitting in business class non smoking right

Archaea

Jul 22, 10:22am

People point out things like food and service still being available at a premium

TheNerd

Jul 22, 10:07am

Reliability has declined for some reason or

Archaea

Jul 22, 10:23am

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Division Bell

Jul 22, 10:37am

Even the free peanuts/pretzels have disappeared.

Monomachos

Jul 22, 10:36am

Except it's way safer than the past...

tmurphey44

Jul 22, 11:18am

that is why I fly frontier. I would rather be always cancelled or delayed

Agnostic-alumni

Jul 22, 11:33am

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