ZW left early. Jimmer came back for his senior season. Both were great for

Apr 23, 2024
11:46:31am

Cougarbib Truly Addicted User

BYU, but, like many young players these days, ZW sold his legacy for a pot of porridge and $35M or so.

I hope ZW rebounds and gets a ring, btw.

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Cougarbib

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I don't understand the disparity in treatment on this board of Zach vs Jimmer.

Mike Bolton

Apr 23, 10:48am

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Joe Banks

Apr 23, 10:50am

Jimmer had a big fall from Grace? Jimmer was the bigger

Plato

Apr 23, 10:51am

There were lots of doubters in jimmers nba ability on here as well.

cougarfann888

Apr 23, 10:51am

Jimmer essentially won the basketball Heisman

JOPE

Apr 23, 10:52am

Ok. Makes sense. Zach did a lot too but not Jimmer level.

Mike Bolton

Apr 23, 10:55am

Jimmer is definitely more a BYU guy than Zach, love them both

GlutealGuy

Apr 23, 10:57am

There were Jimmer apologists back in the day too, saying he just needed the right chance/coach/scheme

TCuz

Apr 23, 10:58am

I think it’s really difficult to tell if Zach is a good NFL QB when our only

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 11:43am

No, it’s not hard at all unless you are trying to play pretend.

TCuz

Apr 23, 11:44am

The Broncos should probably take you on as a consultant.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:01pm

I’m sorry, you think the Broncos getting the Jets to pay half his salary and only giving a (bad) pick swap for Zach

TCuz

Apr 23, 12:04pm

The Bills just paid Mitch Trubisky $2.7m guaranteed. Do you suddenly think he must be good?

TCuz

Apr 23, 12:07pm

I think he's a decent backup QB with less potential upside than Zach.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:29pm

Do you think Geno Smith and Sam Darnold are bad QBs?

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:52pm

No, and yes. Do you think the existence of (rare) outliers means that your favorite player must also be an outlier

TCuz

Apr 23, 1:13pm

4 of the last 4 Jets QB draft picks going “bust” are rare outliers? lol

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 1:50pm

Bears last 4: Fields, Trubisky, Grossman, McCown.

TCuz

Apr 23, 2:01pm

Ok now how many of those guys went somewhere else and played good/great?

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 2:12pm

Only Baker, because that is the extremely rare outlier I was referencing above.

TCuz

Apr 23, 2:21pm

Busts are common. Busts leaving an organization and performing significantly

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 2:23pm

No, that’s not common in New Jersey either. At all.

TCuz

Apr 23, 2:27pm

I think in general we just have a different idea of which QBs are terrible

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 2:34pm

Their last QBs haven’t been great. But those same QBs haven’t been good anywhere else. Geno is the only guy who has

RealTaysomHill

Apr 23, 2:02pm

Geno is great and Sam is good.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 2:16pm

What? In what world is Geno great? And if Darnold is good, why is he on his third team since he left NYJ?

RealTaysomHill

Apr 23, 2:35pm

Who is comparing him to Lance, Fields, or Mac Jones?

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:17pm

They are not paying him “on par with decent to good backups”

RealTaysomHill

Apr 23, 12:23pm

Maybe I'm looking at bad info. For ex, Andy Dalton shows 2.13M.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:26pm

Yeah that's old info. Thanks.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:27pm

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RealTaysomHill

Apr 23, 12:28pm

The same line of thinking. If you think the Broncos’ intervening $2.75m in Zach means he must be good

TCuz

Apr 23, 12:29pm

There are 20 backup QBs that make more money than the Broncos are paying Zach

RealTaysomHill

Apr 23, 12:17pm

If they didn't think he had any redeemable skill/talent, they would not have

BYUFootballisBack

Apr 23, 12:21pm

He was virtually free and he was cheap.

RealTaysomHill

Apr 23, 12:27pm

Where are you seeing this?

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:22pm

Your second link. Instead of “full contract” go to “2024.”

RealTaysomHill

Apr 23, 12:24pm

Yeah you're right. Thanks.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:27pm

I actually think the support has been the same. All we’ve heard for three years is how mismanaged the Jets are and how

RealTaysomHill

Apr 23, 10:58am

I think it’s in your head

cheezedawg

Apr 23, 11:02am

It would be par for the course for me, honestly.

Mike Bolton

Apr 23, 11:04am

I'm sure Zach's immaturity is a big part of it.

BlueFever

Apr 23, 11:06am

His JS comments didn’t help either for some here

STL

Apr 23, 11:15am

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Buffalo

Apr 23, 11:12am

There is one poster here who loves to crap on QBs while claiming to be a BYU

IceCreamButt

Apr 23, 11:14am

Speaking for myself

GRCoug

Apr 23, 11:19am

“Guys, it’s like really windy out there. Come on.”

Alan Schaefer

Apr 23, 11:29am

Jimmer was 100x bigger than Wilson.

ochobeeguy

Apr 23, 11:31am

ZW left early. Jimmer came back for his senior season. Both were great for

Cougarbib

Apr 23, 11:46am

Jimmer didn't have anywhere near a good enough season to leave his junior year..

BYUFootballisBack

Apr 23, 12:12pm

Irrespective of your opinion on that, Jimmer built his max legacy at BYU and ZW

Cougarbib

Apr 23, 2:00pm

Yeah I got off track from the original OP, and agree, Zach will get a lot more

BYUFootballisBack

Apr 23, 5:14pm

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