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Apr 23, 2023
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kotacoug
Intervention Needed
This is really a myth or excuse. It isn’t… it takes will power and effort though
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What factors have contributed to the increase in numbers
Archaea
4/23/23 3:30pm
Getting 2,200 calories in a $7 pizza vs 700 in a $12 salad is a factor.
BlueVU
4/23/23 3:32pm
Cost of good food.
Archaea
4/23/23 3:32pm
Nah. There are healthier choices for cheaper. But they might require
Plato
4/23/23 3:37pm
I think you are proving his point
cougaman
4/23/23 3:57pm
Processed food, fast food, sugary drinks. Not moving.
Samsonite
4/23/23 3:32pm
Same observation.
Archaea
4/23/23 3:33pm
Add to that, many professions work long hours and are fairly sedintary
spugeddy24
4/23/23 3:34pm
Especially if commuting 1-2 hours a day + working 8
1984coug
4/23/23 3:42pm
Yes, diet and physical exercise are important!
Fervent Cougar
4/23/23 3:32pm
Move less and taught from a young age that carbs are what you should eat
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 3:33pm
Blaming carbs as a whole is ridiculous.
allaboutthegainz
4/23/23 3:35pm
It is grains. They dominate the American diet
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 3:36pm
It’s actually not. People eat way too many carby foods.
Samsonite
4/23/23 3:36pm
People eat too much food. It’s all calories in vs calories out.
allaboutthegainz
4/23/23 3:37pm
And what do you think is the form of most of those calories?
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 3:38pm
It is and it isn’t. I lost a lot of weight counting calories and have kept it off. I have found that as I manage my
Samsonite
4/23/23 3:38pm
Right. You ate less calories and lost weight. For you, cutting carbs helped.
allaboutthegainz
4/23/23 3:40pm
I do agree that going complete Atkins or Keto isn’t sustainable for most. My approach is counting calories and trying
Samsonite
4/23/23 3:43pm
Horse hockey!
Snipe
4/23/23 3:43pm
Simply put this is the case… but there is a lot of complexity to WHY people over
kotacoug
4/23/23 3:53pm
Quantity first, quality second but both are issues
yahtzee
4/23/23 8:03pm
WoW describes grains as ‘the staff of life’. Best data & food science agrees.
BYU'01
4/23/23 4:14pm
Section 89 does, I haven’t heard the modern word of wisdom tell us to eat grain
4mack
4/23/23 4:27pm
Where do I access the ‘modern’ edition? Best science still points to the same.
BYU'01
4/23/23 4:35pm
Processed carbs are awful for you.
Samsonite
4/23/23 4:40pm
Processing tends to strip nutrients like dietary fiber & adds sugar & sodium
BYU'01
4/23/23 4:46pm
This is terrible advice.
Samsonite
4/23/23 4:52pm
Show some data or peer-reviewed science supporting your position
BYU'01
4/23/23 4:59pm
DYOR.
Samsonite
4/23/23 5:00pm
I have. It is remarkably consistent with best data available and the WoW.
BYU'01
4/23/23 5:08pm
What’s your body fat %
Samsonite
4/23/23 5:16pm
Link
BYU'01
4/23/23 5:34pm
If this were true the characteristically lean populations of East Asia wouldt be
chismoso
4/23/23 3:45pm
They don’t eat as many carbs as we do
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 3:49pm
You are missing the point. They still eat a lot of carbs. Far less sugar
chismoso
4/23/23 3:53pm
Sugars are carbs
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 3:55pm
I know sugars are carbs. You are still missing the point
chismoso
4/23/23 3:57pm
In the average American diet it is carbs that are contributing to excess caloric
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 4:03pm
Im glad you figured it out. The problem is excess calories
chismoso
4/23/23 4:10pm
You have no interest in where the calories are coming from
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 4:20pm
If you think people are obese because of carbs I dont know how to help you
chismoso
4/23/23 4:35pm
Exactly. The majority of their calories come from carbs. They just eat less.
allaboutthegainz
4/23/23 3:59pm
Living life screen to screen to screen.
StrongBad
4/23/23 3:34pm
In addition - ability to afford and buy more high calorie foods. More sedentary, less physically demanding jobs
Zenoch
4/23/23 3:36pm
Processed food is No. 1; Sugar added to everything is No. 2
2FarGone
4/23/23 3:37pm
Seed & vegetable oil. Processed food much of which is marketed as healthy
4mack
4/23/23 3:38pm
We have foods that are designed to be addictive.
supersix
4/23/23 3:41pm
Here's the obvious...having lived it.
TrueBlue67
4/23/23 3:45pm
Good work. We all grew up with the absolute lie of the “food pyramid”, which will kill you.
Samsonite
4/23/23 3:49pm
150 grams of carbs ? Is that what you are saying? Or 150 calories from carbs.
kotacoug
4/23/23 3:50pm
150 grams of carbs per day. I don't care where they come from.
TrueBlue67
4/23/23 3:52pm
How many calories do you eat in a day? Are you logging it with an app?
Magneto
4/23/23 10:44pm
I don't pay attention to calories at all. I focus on a balanced diet and keep my
TrueBlue67
4/24/23 10:17am
Congrats. Eating healthy (actually healthy) is extremely difficult especially
Chefcurry
4/23/23 3:52pm
Inspiring. Thanks for sharing your story. Hope it leads to a long life for you.
ldssdl
4/23/23 4:28pm
The best peer-reviewed food science still shows 55-60% of your avg kcal/day
BYU'01
4/23/23 4:34pm
This is terrible advice.
Samsonite
4/23/23 4:42pm
Please cite your peer-reviewed scientific data
BYU'01
4/23/23 4:47pm
You posted a government funded “study”. Might as well have posted the food pyramid.
Samsonite
4/23/23 4:52pm
I cited a 165 pages summarizing the best peer reviewed research available
BYU'01
4/23/23 4:58pm
No, I didn’t read 165 pages. I looked at the summary and who funded the “study”. It’s the same people that preached
Samsonite
4/23/23 5:00pm
It’s not a study. It’s a summary of #00s of studies: BEST data avail. Your data?
BYU'01
4/23/23 5:04pm
My data is that I limit carbs and I’m very healthy. The healthiest people I know do the same.
Samsonite
4/23/23 5:22pm
No wonder MLMs are so pervasive. Do you hate all sciences? Just medicine & diet?
BYU'01
4/23/23 5:33pm
Diet advise from government is historically awful.
Samsonite
4/25/23 12:07pm
Like I said, this has only been my journey. Take it for what it is worth, which
TrueBlue67
4/23/23 6:11pm
‘Times of famine’ specifically references flesh of beasts, fowl, animals
BYU'01
4/23/23 6:20pm
To each his own...
TrueBlue67
4/23/23 6:30pm
The WOW was given at a time when food was seasonal.
Mises
4/23/23 8:34pm
I love hearing this! So good for you!
Lefty24
4/23/23 8:51pm
Fast, easy to attain calorie dense food. Push of upsizing everything. We are
kotacoug
4/23/23 3:48pm
Too many calories. The end
chismoso
4/23/23 3:49pm
In the not too distant future, 1/3 of Americans will have type 2 diabetes
Ten_Hour_Drives
4/23/23 3:52pm
Lots of reasons but corn syrup is among them.
panacablue
4/23/23 4:05pm
The food pyramid. Total crock of rubbish that destroyed a generation's health
doctorcoug
4/23/23 4:29pm
Insulin problems.
calvindyer
4/23/23 4:46pm
It is expensive to eat healthy.
BYUtka
4/23/23 4:56pm
This is really a myth or excuse. It isn’t… it takes will power and effort though
kotacoug
4/23/23 5:09pm
Absolutely
BYU'01
4/23/23 5:16pm
It absolutely is true. Pretending it is a myth doesn't help anyone.
BYUtka
4/23/23 6:26pm
Using it as an excuse hurts more
kotacoug
4/23/23 6:40pm
No one is "using it as an excuse."
BYUtka
4/23/23 8:39pm
I disagree. My wife and I eat very healthy and our food budget is $350/month, up
TrueBlue67
4/23/23 7:11pm
The data & science is remarkably consistent: sedentary, processed foods ->
BYU'01
4/23/23 5:14pm
Define processed food
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 5:19pm
I enjoy cooked food. Generally, too much added processed sugar, fats & NO3s
BYU'01
4/23/23 6:55pm
Your link has the exact same categories as mine doesn’t it?
Charles Darwin
4/23/23 7:05pm
Obesity impacted by dietary patterns incl. too many kcals & sedentary life style
BYU'01
4/23/23 8:08pm
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