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ChinaFan
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BTW, that's 1/3 of all his seasons coached, including this year when he quit.
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Cancel culture at it's best... Gruden gets fired, has coached athletes of color and who are gay, with no complaints for
ChinaFan
Truly Addicted User
10/13/21 7:46pm
I guarantee it’s more of a bruce allen thing and if they released other emails
CougieMcCougFace
10/13/21 7:47pm
The only real crime I see is forcing those cheerleaders to pose topless.
CopperLix
10/13/21 7:48pm
Gee....and here I thought that even in their full costumes...NFL cheerleaders were already (mostly) topless
Michael McQuain
10/13/21 8:35pm
That’s just your imagination
Alpi Gusto
10/13/21 8:50pm
I heard Gru was going to identify as Hunter Biden so the media would ignore his
WorldWideLeader
10/14/21 12:41am
RE: I heard Gru was going to identify as Hunter Biden so the media would ignore
NVCougar
10/14/21 8:48am
You think being forced out over racist & homophobic work-related emails and not
vagabonder
10/13/21 7:50pm
Do you think policing peoples lives thru their email is the way to go? I guarantee that there are executives, even CEOs
ChinaFan
10/13/21 7:56pm
And you can bet that in just about any business, an executive would face severe
Kavorka
10/13/21 8:07pm
I'm not saying they wouldn't. I'm saying that no one is going to go to my old employer, request my emails, and then
ChinaFan
10/13/21 8:41pm
That’s not what happened though. They surfaced as part of an NFL investigation
Kavorka
10/13/21 9:10pm
and if not relevant to that investigation should have remained private conversation though the league might want to talk
ChinaFan
10/13/21 10:26pm
It's the hypocrisy of leftist looney cancel mobs that is the problem. They are
shammy
10/13/21 8:14pm
How about this? Condemn both?
SwampyCoug
10/13/21 9:21pm
It is sad that all you have to do us throw the term "cancel culture" around and
SwampyCoug
10/13/21 9:12pm
not defending his speech at all, and no one would have thought that it was just ONE email. People who use those words
ChinaFan
10/13/21 10:41pm
I’d be willing to bet a huge percentage of the players have said things just as
Coug-Ida
10/13/21 11:30pm
Was Gruden fired?
Charles Darwin
10/13/21 7:50pm
He resigned because he was going to be fired
Adrielle
10/13/21 7:52pm
Doesn’t sound like Mark Davis was going to fire him based on his “comment”
rivercitycoug
10/13/21 8:04pm
Lost 60 million so he could avoid being fired? Doubt it
Charles Darwin
10/13/21 8:20pm
Keyshawn Johnson was pretty vocal this week.
Triznaynay
10/13/21 7:53pm
but never before...that's what the op is getting at
palangi
10/13/21 11:27pm
He claims he was before but no one listened. Said “he’s a bad person” and was
Triznaynay
10/14/21 5:48am
and Keyshawn is the best of who could come forward? are they going to trot Antonio Brown out next?
ChinaFan
10/14/21 10:17am
You know they have emails, right? These aren’t just allegations
Alpi Gusto
10/14/21 10:23am
You seem really committed to Gruden's cause here. You said "not a single
Triznaynay
10/14/21 10:53am
okay, you can have KJ, and I'll use Carr to counter that for every KJ there are players that love working for Gruden. I
ChinaFan
10/14/21 11:27am
This is not cancel culture. I am conservative but I am tired of conservatives
SwampyCoug
10/14/21 11:53am
See this is what's wrong today, people think that if someone makes a mistake with their words, they need to be erased
ChinaFan
10/14/21 12:06pm
Ok
Triznaynay
10/14/21 12:17pm
Did cancel culture really get Gruden or did Gruden’s own stupidity to write
CrimsonCoug81
10/13/21 7:54pm
It was stupid, but they were private emails never intended for public consumption.
Adrielle
10/13/21 8:01pm
Work emails to people in power within the league aren’t the same as private
Kavorka
10/13/21 8:04pm
It was his private email
vegas guey
10/13/21 8:55pm
Even if that’s the case, was he sending emails to the official email accounts
Kavorka
10/13/21 9:12pm
This one isn’t an example of cancel culture. Sorry.
Kavorka
10/13/21 7:55pm
I'm amazed that so many of you are choosing to die on this hill. If in your job,
Alpi Gusto
10/13/21 7:57pm
But Gruden was not an employee of the NFL at that time.
BYU Grounds
10/13/21 8:03pm
No, but he was a former NFL head coach and covered the NFL for ESPN.
Kavorka
10/13/21 8:09pm
I agree with what Kavorka said below, but does it really matter if he was
Alpi Gusto
10/13/21 8:59pm
The reactionary defense of all manner of scumbaggery on CB by some is odd. I
CorndogStickshift
10/13/21 8:31pm
Exactly, an internal investigation found disgusting written evidence
NYC and Japan
10/13/21 10:20pm
Does anyone one here really believe he can coach a diverse team now?
SwampyCoug
10/13/21 10:24pm
agreed, but also it's not just that he circulated nude photos of women —
HeismanTy
10/13/21 10:55pm
For sure, I agree
Alpi Gusto
10/13/21 10:58pm
People can debate if he should be fired, but what he wrote was classless trash.
shoganai
10/13/21 8:04pm
I'd be more concerned about Gruden's actions than his emails. Did he discriminat
Forzaitalia
10/13/21 8:35pm
I listened to Chris Simms talk about this situation (Chris played for John for 6 years as a player) and he told a story
buhlcougar
10/13/21 8:36pm
Years and years, including fairly recent years of abominable written history
NYC and Japan
10/13/21 9:21pm
I would guess Grudens behavior is fairly common among men in power
kiyoshige
10/13/21 10:24pm
It doesn’t matter that he can hide it well
BYUAnime
10/13/21 10:44pm
He will coach again. Probably next season. And that team will succeed.
Heath Squashwell
10/13/21 10:59pm
What makes you think he’s a good coach? He hasn’t made the playoffs yet
Alpi Gusto
10/13/21 11:00pm
uh, yeah he has, 5 different seasons, 2 teams (Oakland & Tampa Bay)
ChinaFan
10/13/21 11:09pm
BTW, that's 1/3 of all his seasons coached, including this year when he quit.
ChinaFan
10/13/21 11:10pm
He hasn’t been to the playoffs since 2007 and hasn’t won a playoff game since 02
Alpi Gusto
10/13/21 11:25pm
yet that isn't what you said, you said he hasn't made the playoffs yet, which clearly he has done FIVE time with two org
ChinaFan
10/13/21 11:36pm
Ok, ill fix it. What makes you think he’s a good coach? He signed the largest
Alpi Gusto
10/14/21 9:03am
Defending Gruden from "cancellation" is not a hill I’d choose to die on…
The Chelsea Dagger
10/13/21 11:10pm
RE: Cancel culture at it's best... Gruden gets fired, has coached athletes of
akbarishiwatsu
10/13/21 11:27pm
People do not understand modern day bigotry in the workplace. They don't usually
SwampyCoug
10/14/21 8:25am
I think people would be surprised how much of this out there
kiyoshige
10/14/21 8:49am
that's nuts, Cuomo had women accusers,. not just dirty emails.
ChinaFan
10/14/21 12:07pm
And emails with pics of women being forced to pose topless is what????
SwampyCoug
10/14/21 12:35pm
what about it? what about the content makes it appropriate to use cancel culture to force him out? Does his possession
ChinaFan
10/14/21 6:43pm
Look, you can have people like Gruden work for you. Good luck with that!
SwampyCoug
10/14/21 7:53pm
Principles that are more important than firing Gruden:
canofpicante
10/14/21 9:03am
He wasn't fired. He quit. And the emails speak for themselves. Sheesh.
SwampyCoug
10/14/21 9:22am
I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t have quit or got fired. I’m saying
canofpicante
10/18/21 10:04am
You're defending his actions and job harder than he did. He saw it and resigned.
SwampyCoug
10/14/21 12:53pm
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