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Sep 22, 2021
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Why should they be intellectually honest?

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jtm0001

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Dylan Collie was on sports radio and said he thought it would

Jdoc

9/22/21 6:49am

Haha. Maybe, maybe not. How could you even know?

mobomanjoe

9/22/21 6:53am

I agree. I was shocked he said it. So we’re David James and Patrick Kinahan.

Jdoc

9/22/21 6:55am

You’re being trolled.

snowbird

9/22/21 8:22am

Meh. The game was more than QB play.

Benfica1

9/22/21 7:13am

Would Rising have prevented the defensive line from being pushed around?

Mister P

9/22/21 6:56am

He said Utah’s offensive line would have played harder for Rising. Said that

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:03am

I think it is possible to craft an argument that Utah would have won with Rising, but that one ain't it. It is frankly

Clark Addison

9/22/21 7:06am

I did think that the team voting the backup as Captain was telling.

dave

9/22/21 7:06am

If that were even remotely true, then Utah has a wimpier Oline than we thought

runnincoug

9/22/21 8:06am

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AZPTCOUG

9/22/21 8:31am

Wait...i thought the popular excuse was that Whitt was intentionally throwing...

icecougar

9/22/21 9:07am

That is adorable

HONOMO

9/22/21 10:34am

That does not say good things about the line.

9/22/21 11:32am

I absolutely love that you guys get to stew on the what-ifs for the next 3 yrs.

cosmohio

9/22/21 11:36am

So the players-only meeting on Sunday was (A)hate the QB (B)The coach is wrong

anonymous37

9/22/21 1:31pm

You never make good decisions when you skip church. 🙂

9/22/21 1:52pm

and Jdoc is just like the same donkey cry babies that said they would have beat

byublue42

9/22/21 9:31am

I love it. AWTs are a crucial component of this rivalry.

shoganai

9/22/21 6:56am

Utah found one? This is coming from Dylan Collie, not me. Read my posts.

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:04am

Uh tons of ute fans already have said the same as Dylan

BYU '80

9/22/21 7:06am

And you're lying when you say you don't believe it. You know you do.

shoganai

9/22/21 7:10am

No I don’t. BYU is clearly a better team than Utah this year. They should have

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:11am

RE: No I don’t. BYU is clearly a better team than Utah this year. They

shoganai

9/22/21 7:13am

Thanks.

9/22/21 7:27am

Ute fans have been spouting this on Twitter for days.

zsmooth

9/22/21 7:13am

lol you came here to say it though!! Cry me a river!! 😂😂😂

AZPTCOUG

9/22/21 8:31am

And BYU would have played a different game had Zach Wilson started.

RSL

9/22/21 6:56am

Now the Utes will claim victory in an alternate universe. The "What If" reminds

Cougsanity

9/22/21 6:57am

"The streak ended because Utah forfeited..."

foofcoug

9/22/21 6:59am

Assuming they think like much of our fanbase, yes.

SinkingQuffa

9/22/21 7:00am

This is coming from Dylan Collie. You know, former BYU receiver.

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:05am

He only benefitted from a BYU education for one year

BYU '80

9/22/21 7:06am

He baited Utah fans into repeating it and you fell for it, hook, line, & sinker

rcbyufan

9/22/21 7:11am

Read my posts. I don’t agree with it.

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:11am

LOL. He just needed you to repeat it not believe it. He got you. Ha. Ha. Ha.

rcbyufan

9/22/21 7:13am

boise did as much last year saying if their starting QB was in they would have

brick oven

9/22/21 7:29am

Broken record on backup qbs. SDSU did not expect him to play

BYU '80

9/22/21 6:57am

ASU defense was much better that Utah as well.

whirl

9/22/21 7:49am

Lol you know nothing about Rising. One game tells you nothing.

Roghai

9/22/21 11:02am

I found someone else who agrees with this...

NOCAL_YFAN

9/22/21 7:01am

Good one

jtm0001

9/22/21 10:25am

Brewer was a four year starter at P5 level. But that dude in waiting is better!

txblue

9/22/21 7:02am

If anyone wants to make that claim, they have to allow BYU fans to claim that

LegitCoug

9/22/21 7:02am

Why should they be intellectually honest?

jtm0001

9/22/21 10:27am

Love the Collie family and respectfully it doesn't sound like Dylan watched the

Saxa

9/22/21 7:05am

Do you often sit in the west seats and clamor for whoever is the backup qb?

9/22/21 7:07am

Did you read my post? I don’t agree with Collie?

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:10am

It's a tale as old as time. "____ would have beat them."

9/22/21 7:13am

Yet, here you are effectively promoting it on our board.

NOCAL_YFAN

9/22/21 7:19am

Exactly, trolls gotta troll.

The_Cuss

9/22/21 8:19am

LOL Gustav called it, and has the receipts.

Abe Froman

9/22/21 7:11am

Uh, this is coming from one of your own.

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:12am

And you couldn't post about it fast enough.

shoganai

9/22/21 7:14am

And keep posting about it, and fully explaining it.

Corn Pop

9/22/21 7:21am

They are called trolls. Dont feed them. They aren’t worth it.

The_Cuss

9/22/21 8:20am

Corn Pop was a bad dude.

cougfrvr

9/22/21 8:34am

Uh, you’re using it as reinforcement for the point y’all desperately want to be

Abe Froman

9/22/21 8:04am

I mean, it wouldn't matter if it's true or not. The game was played and we lost.

kos

9/22/21 9:15am

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Benfica1

9/22/21 7:12am

Easy to say with the win in your back pocket. He was being nice.

panacablue

9/22/21 7:17am

Lol. Whatever it takes to soothe the pain.

rocker

9/22/21 7:18am

Take it up with Dylan Collie.

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:19am

Maybe he is right... But Ute coaches picked the wrong guy. Part of the game.

dave

9/22/21 7:21am

Funny thing is, he’s not the one here posting about it.

Corn Pop

9/22/21 7:22am

No, he just said it on a sports talk radio show with thousands of people

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:24am

And yet he’s not the one here posting about it.

Corn Pop

9/22/21 7:28am

Dozens.

O Gaucho

9/22/21 7:33am

You brought it here. And I think you’re being disingenuous

rocker

9/22/21 7:29am

Trolls, what can you do about it? Not much, just let it burn out.

The_Cuss

9/22/21 8:21am

I heard the interview. He never said that Utah would’ve won.

CopperLix

9/22/21 7:24am

He insinuated it pretty heavily. Go back and

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:27am

As a point to validate or mock your program, though? Sounded like bait to me.

SinkingQuffa

9/22/21 7:30am

I don't need to "go back". I know what he said.

CopperLix

9/22/21 8:24am

Well here are my insinuations... Yewts still acting as the little brother, BYU

byublue42

9/22/21 9:47am

🤣 heard the interview, he never said Utah would have won

LEHI cougar

9/22/21 7:30am

I never said he said Utah would have won. He insinuated it. DJ and PK were

Jdoc

9/22/21 7:33am

Well if that receiver that played 1 season for BYU said so then that must mean U essentially won…

mulletino

9/22/21 7:50am

"Basically said he thought Utah would have won." - jdoc's exact words. LOL

Megamind

9/22/21 8:14am

The truth comes out. JDOC is a troll confirmed. Trolls tend to twist the truth.

The_Cuss

9/22/21 8:25am

Yeah I never got the sense the he was insinuating Utah would have won.

machete

9/22/21 7:33am

The truth comes out. JDOC is a troll confirmed. Trolls tend to twist the truth.

The_Cuss

9/22/21 8:24am

Thanks. This is now priceless. “Different game” vs “We would have won”. LMBO.

rocker

9/22/21 7:32am

NOT TRUE. I listened to that interview and he never said that. U fans will hear

MustacheMan

9/22/21 7:30am

but he "HEAVILY" insinuated it!!!

9/22/21 7:59am

Hahahaha, what a clown response. Poor Ute fans grasping for any explanation. LOL

The_Cuss

9/22/21 8:26am

Well, if a former player says so, then I guess we may as well move that win to the loss column.

Spiff

9/22/21 7:30am

Utah would not have won because nothing has changed with the OL. Until that happens, Utah is in trouble with any team

specsauce

9/22/21 7:33am

Dylan joined the 3 Yewts in a basement podcast?

WJCougar

9/22/21 7:35am

OK everyone - it sounds like Dylan said it would have been a diff game, and Jdoc heard “Utes win”. Nothing to see here.

zsmooth

9/22/21 7:43am

This ^^^^. Trolls gonna troll. And this is a classic Ute troll on display.

The_Cuss

9/22/21 8:27am

Rising couldn’t get them over the top against SDSU. What makes them think…

Zastava

9/22/21 7:46am

Oh the sweet toil of the what if game...

whirl

9/22/21 7:48am

And BYU wins every year Utah doesn't play game. . . .

Madam Pattirini

9/22/21 7:52am

We will have to see if they win ASU with Rising.

SJBLUE

9/22/21 7:53am

Posts like this make me want to see Rising get slaughtered next game

Heath Squashwell

9/22/21 7:57am

I almost want to see him do really well. Kyle & staff can't look competent

SinkingQuffa

9/22/21 8:03am

Not following that logic

Heath Squashwell

9/22/21 8:22am

"Really well" overstating it — noticeably better, but still pretty bad.

SinkingQuffa

9/22/21 8:57am

It was radio. You couldn't see him winking at BYU fans.

Megamind

9/22/21 8:00am

Stunning analysis - If Utah had played better football by [insert changes here], it would have been a different game.

kccougar

9/22/21 8:01am

Let me be the first to congratulate you on your moral victory.

DrYfire

9/22/21 8:11am

I think he is right, specially knowing that Zach Wilson it was suppose to be

lalochile

9/22/21 8:19am

I'm so, so happy that it's finally Utah with a QB controversy

reddead

9/22/21 8:26am

He didn’t basically say they would’ve won

9/22/21 8:26am

Yeah, lets see how he does the rest of the way

JOPE

9/22/21 8:27am

Haha, this is rich...nothing more than convenient cover

LateToTheGame

9/22/21 8:29am

We would have won EVERY game if we did it differently. EVERY game.

BYUheaven

9/22/21 8:29am

We have won every game.

Schultz is back

9/22/21 8:31am

Wow, easy with your logic. It's not welcome around the Utes right now.

LateToTheGame

9/22/21 8:33am

Only if Rising also played D Line and added some toughness to that unit.

cougarnw

9/22/21 8:36am

nah, We have been playing that game for the last 11 years

Pangare

9/22/21 8:36am

Far more likely that we'd be on a 2 game win streak if Utah hadn't wimped out...

CougarThug

9/22/21 8:44am

So the guy that was beat out by Brewer was going to somehow do better than Brewer...

Coug

9/22/21 8:48am

There were a lot of what-if for BYU over the 9 game Utah streak.

Blue Ghost

9/22/21 8:54am

Well of course. After all, Cam Rising is the 39th best D1 player in the state.

SinkingQuffa

9/22/21 9:11am

Yeah, and if Baylor Romney started BYU would throw a touchdown on EVERY pass.

inutero

9/22/21 9:15am

Baylor Romney passer rating 158.3 - perfect

9/22/21 9:18am

BYU would have beat Rising this year, and they would have beat him last year.

ochobeeguy

9/22/21 9:27am

Boy being on this side of the rivalry is soooo much better. Forgot what it felt

RalphWiggam

9/22/21 9:45am

Except Rising lost the SDSU game after being tied in overtime. SDSU adjusted.

Bee Chunder

9/22/21 10:08am

Well, he didn't, and they didn't, so who cares?

dccoug

9/22/21 10:27am

Dylan was just making fun of your coaches, if he said that.

JAGA97

9/22/21 10:46am

WRONG: It would have been Rising quitting and Brewer would now be the starter.

zzcoug

9/22/21 10:50am

There are many ifs, ands, or buts related to the past nine games where BYU comes out the winner if something were

SwimmingWithSharks

9/22/21 10:53am

He’s right. CB is on the far end of the BYU bias spectrum, so I’m not surprised

Roghai

9/22/21 11:08am

I think you are missing the point. Dylan never said what JDoc thinks he heard.

NewMexiCoug

9/22/21 11:35am

Either way, it’s true. If BYU tried to defend Utah with Rising the same way they

Roghai

9/22/21 11:49am

That is the kind of rationale that the loser comes up with. How many other

NewMexiCoug

9/22/21 11:58am

So you are basically saying if Rising was the starter instead of Brewer, BYU

byublue42

9/22/21 12:01pm

He is also admitting that Ute coaches are horrible judges of QB talent

NewMexiCoug

9/22/21 12:06pm

Well they’ve still won 9 out of 10, so I can’t be too critical. The game isn’t

Roghai

9/22/21 12:12pm

Are you sure you are not a BYU fan posing as a Ute fan?

NewMexiCoug

9/22/21 12:14pm

DING DING DING DING, but I think you got it backwards

byublue42

9/22/21 12:18pm

You don’t think conference games are more consequential for Utah? 😂🤣

Roghai

9/22/21 12:40pm

For their moods? No.

zsmooth

9/22/21 12:41pm

Lol BYU has been independent too long apparently

Roghai

9/22/21 1:16pm

Well this right here proves you are a Yewt, this is pulled straight from the

byublue42

9/22/21 2:55pm

I’m doubtful because Rising is a much better fit for Utah, and BYU had no film

Roghai

9/22/21 12:09pm

Hahahahahahaha!!!!! Keep dreaming!!!!!

MustacheMan

9/22/21 12:14pm

It wouldn’t have taken much for things to swing the other way, but okay lol

Roghai

9/22/21 12:47pm

RE: It wouldn’t have taken much for things to swing the other way, but

The_Cuss

9/22/21 12:53pm

Keep the "what ifs" coming! Delicious

machete

9/22/21 12:57pm

BYU fans are the kings of what ifs, so it’s only fair that we can do it right

Roghai

9/22/21 1:19pm

"Don't be a hypocrite" lolololololol

machete

9/22/21 1:35pm

Yep, you’re mocking using what ifs when that’s all you’ve done for the last

Roghai

9/22/21 1:50pm

So which is the correct position to take - play the what-if game or accept the results on the field?

kccougar

9/22/21 1:57pm

Right? This guy does not get it.

machete

9/22/21 2:24pm

You tell me haha. Results are obviously what matter, but there can be legitimate

Roghai

9/22/21 3:02pm

Valid when its in your favor, not valid when it isn't. Got it, no contradiction.

The_Cuss

9/22/21 3:10pm

And here you are using what ifs when you've mocked using them the past decade

machete

9/22/21 2:28pm

Yes, except what you forget is Rizing actually gets hurt third play in. so....

9/22/21 1:54pm

For Utah's sake you better hope that one difference would be the ability to make

Agaricus

9/22/21 12:13pm

Isn't that the same thing as saying the coaches suck?

protonspring

9/23/21 9:48am

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