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Nov 21, 2020
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Idahofallsblue
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True but that’s the way everything works.
If they say it isn’t tithing money then it’s true
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Tom said the athletic dept doesn't take tithing money, ok fine I get that
YNWA
11/21/20 8:29am
Money is fungible.
Snipe
11/21/20 8:35am
Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
Fake Gary Sheide
11/21/20 10:42am
I can’t not read that in Homer’s voice.
XORCoug
11/21/20 11:24am
Fungible! Whenever I see /hear that word I think, what went into its creation?
LEDSFW
11/21/20 12:03pm
They subsidize tuition enough to understand why athletics doesn’t get any direct funds.
Turnpike Lane
11/21/20 8:36am
The church has over 100 Billion dollars sitting in just ONE investment fund
Zastava
11/21/20 8:40am
No they don’t. That released info didn’t even allege that.
Turnpike Lane
11/21/20 12:17pm
its at least $70B. $37B from Ensign Peak, and $33B from 13 other shell companies
Rooney
11/22/20 5:01am
And most of those most likely own non income generating properties
Turnpike Lane
11/22/20 9:25am
Do something with the money! Really it should be for humanitarian efforts that
DoseOfReality
11/21/20 8:46am
BYU sports has done more to normalize the public image of the church...
Zastava
11/21/20 9:06am
That positive publicity would change as soon as tithing money went to football.
ditch
11/21/20 9:43am
agreed - both inside and outside of the church
HarlemCoug
11/21/20 10:06am
who said anything about tithing money? but maybe thats what they are concerned
ColonelMustard
11/21/20 11:15am
Before the Church pumps billions of dollars into BYU football, they'd probably
panguitch
11/21/20 9:51am
The church wouldn’t need to pump “billions“ into BYU Athletics.
Zastava
11/21/20 10:00am
I think that Football and Basketball should keep the money they make.
ParentingNotForSissy
11/21/20 10:07am
^^Doesn’t understand how collegiate athletics operate.
Zastava
11/21/20 10:27am
Even if football and basketball kept $5 million, they are still underfunded.
ParentingNotForSissy
11/21/20 3:44pm
Excellent observation
Happy As Larry
11/21/20 11:39am
I agree. How many Seventh Day Adventist University's can you name?
ParentingNotForSissy
11/21/20 9:59am
RE: I agree. How many Seventh Day Adventist University's can you name?
85fan
11/21/20 10:09am
RE: I agree. How many Seventh Day Adventist University's can you name?
TruBluThruNThru
11/21/20 11:20am
Yep, my little brother was born in an Adventist Healthcare hospital
DMVCougar
11/21/20 7:56pm
This has been my experience! But the conversation was about a Cosmo stunt 🙂
ThomasQKelly
11/21/20 9:36pm
I think this is more true if we are Independent.
HenderCoug
11/22/20 8:39am
Better yet build an endowment and finance your charity in perpetuity with the
RobDog
11/21/20 9:06am
“Hoarding the money” is an unfair characterization.
MormonThug
11/21/20 9:18am
I don’t know what I’d call it if not “hoarding”.
Zastava
11/21/20 9:53am
Rainy day fund?
ParentingNotForSissy
11/21/20 10:03am
A rainy day fund larger than the GDP of many entire nations?
Zastava
11/21/20 10:23am
Yup. It was really useful this year. Worse will happen sometime.
ParentingNotForSissy
11/21/20 10:28am
Useful? How?
Zastava
11/21/20 10:29am
RE: Useful? How?
Kolipoki
11/21/20 10:38am
Lol. That represents a tiny, tiny fraction of the church’s stash.
Zastava
11/21/20 11:10am
😂😂😂 you asked how the Church’s vast wealth has been useful.
Kolipoki
11/21/20 3:46pm
We know the church is worth literally hundreds of billions. It should be giving
Zastava
11/21/20 3:56pm
No we don't know, but...
TriForce
11/21/20 5:31pm
We don’t know exactly how much the church is worth, but we know it’s at least
Zastava
11/21/20 5:44pm
Don't feel guilty if you don't contribute. That's not the intension.
ParentingNotForSissy
11/21/20 7:42pm
I don’t think it should be temporary, more people know about the church because
Joe
11/22/20 12:01pm
I, for one, sleep better at night knowing the church has a massive fund
Puma14
11/21/20 9:20am
And if in 15 years the economy collapses, it will be “why didn’t the church
Alister Mackenzie
11/21/20 9:33am
I believe Joseph advised Pharaoh to "hoard" as well. Look where that got him.
panacablue
11/21/20 10:28am
No football team, gladiators and even padded seats in the amphitheaters removed
Ripliancum
11/21/20 10:57am
Think about what happens when someone goes to a bishop for financial help.
XORCoug
11/21/20 9:27am
34 Temples Announced, 29 Under Construction, 8 Under Renovation
lmcmlarsen
11/21/20 9:37am
Here’s my issue with not using church funds (interest and revenue from investments and the like): the church has said
46in96
11/21/20 9:46am
Football and Basketball do not need to fund other sports.
ParentingNotForSissy
11/21/20 10:17am
I’m not arguing the logic of City Creek as an investment... I’m saying the notion that church only uses their money for
46in96
11/21/20 11:07am
RE: Here’s my issue with not using church funds (interest and revenue from
Kolipoki
11/21/20 10:46am
Are you sure about that? Doesnt Utah and SLC have pretty strict ordinances and laws that prevent a high concentration of
Zach Morris
11/21/20 11:13am
It’s true. Some people’s entire life is to give the Church the middle finger.
CaliWG
11/21/20 4:56pm
The brethren, have frequently touted that projects have not used any tithing
Idahofallsblue
11/21/20 10:03am
The mall will probably make money over time.
Count Cougar
11/21/20 10:13am
The tithing vs non-tithing distinction is meaningless and silly
reddead
11/21/20 10:35am
RE: The tithing vs non-tithing distinction is meaningless and silly
85fan
11/21/20 10:41am
Yeah I think people underestimate how much has been given to the church and the
Idahofallsblue
11/21/20 10:46am
Fair, but see point #1; they couldn't invest that without tithing
reddead
11/21/20 11:44am
True but that’s the way everything works.
Idahofallsblue
11/21/20 12:25pm
If tithing money has been invested, then it's tithing money
reddead
11/21/20 12:44pm
So they can’t keep accounts separate?
Idahofallsblue
11/21/20 12:53pm
Do you have any evidence to suggest that they do?
reddead
11/21/20 6:44pm
We don’t have evidence either way
Idahofallsblue
11/21/20 6:49pm
Since the Church no longer publishes financials, it's tough. But there is evid.
reddead
11/21/20 7:21pm
i think hes trying to say
Rooney
11/22/20 5:20am
Not entirely
dratax
11/21/20 12:37pm
Since you're familiar with that era, tell me how the Church survived 1893?
reddead
11/21/20 7:11pm
It would be interesting to know how much each of you critics have sent to BYU in
Jasbo
11/21/20 10:53am
disagree. only considering ideas from a certain group
Rooney
11/22/20 5:27am
If we want it we've got to shell out more of our own bucks. Thanks if you do
Ripliancum
11/21/20 10:59am
If you don’t support the Prophets decisions on finances, is that apostasy?
Bullrider
11/21/20 11:13am
BYU Athletics is incredibly well funded compared to its peers. I’m was happy to
Tango
11/21/20 11:55am
Pretty funny thread. So much incorrect information starting with the church
BlackBart
11/21/20 3:35pm
RE: Tom said the athletic dept doesn't take tithing money, ok fine I get that
Emmett Fitz-Hume
11/21/20 5:06pm
They invest any extra tithing money and have for decades. The funds are still
TailgateU
11/21/20 7:30pm
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