I can see where you're coming from... Turnovers are great, but...

Oct 20, 2020
2:28:45pm

canndyman Contributor

For me the more important figure is total defense, and red zone defense. If you are holding your opponent to low scoring totals, then turnovers only matter so much. That said, I totally get what you're saying and would love to see more.

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Not to be nitpicky. 3 INTS and 1 Fumble Recovery in 5 games seems very low

SlantRoute

10/20/20 12:21pm

There's a sizeable random component to turnovers.

Indy Coug

10/20/20 12:22pm

I wouldn't mind it one bit if most of our random turnover luck happens

BoiseBlue

10/20/20 12:24pm

And refs actually awarding the turnovers that happen

BigYfan

10/20/20 12:32pm

True, but two years in a row seems like mote than chance.

antiyewt

10/20/20 2:10pm

BYU was 13th in interceptions last year, despite being almost dead last in sacks.

Indy Coug

10/20/20 2:55pm

How many of those were by linebackers?

antiyewt

10/20/20 3:37pm

With a surname starting w "W".

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 4:09pm

Waufusi or Wili?

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 5:48pm

Turnovers are much more prevalent in plays that come with pressure (either by a blindside sack, or rushed, errand throw

crm48

10/20/20 4:08pm

Eh. A lot of turnover rate is luck.

dezzy

10/20/20 12:22pm

If we keep getting pressure, we’ll get more turnovers

Coop

10/20/20 12:23pm

If we play tighter defense in the secondary, then that pressure will certainly

here's to hoping

10/20/20 4:24pm

Amazing when you see that stat and realize that we still

CougarCanuck76

10/20/20 12:23pm

Yep. Not a complaint. Just an observation. Our defensive numbers are great.

SlantRoute

10/20/20 12:24pm

You point out a valid weakness in this defense. Our offense was just that

CougarCanuck76

10/20/20 12:32pm

3 Near interceptions that change the game last week:

BYUcrew818

10/20/20 12:30pm

We are really conservative in a lot of areas.Part of bend and not break is about

Ssebo

10/20/20 12:24pm

They'll surpass last season's sack total on Saturday though. That is nice.

byubyu

10/20/20 12:29pm

I hate that our int's are always in terrible field position or, like last week

Harbinger

10/20/20 12:35pm

That 2 point INT was important though. Tune was very conservative from then on..

Rat

10/20/20 12:57pm

Interception on 2pt attempt worthless? It literally took 2 pts off the board for

DanSmith...BYU

10/20/20 3:12pm

Not really. Who knows if the receiver catches it and gets the conversion anyway?

Harbinger

10/20/20 3:15pm

Isn't the point of defense to prevent the other team from scoring which is

therealpaulhollywood

10/20/20 6:03pm

Watch that play again...if Udo doesn't make that catch, Houston's WR does.

DanSmith...BYU

10/20/20 6:07pm

You could argue that play is what turned the tide. It was the start of the comeback.

SpiffCoug

10/20/20 4:34pm

We’ve caused fumbles, but they generally haven’t bounced our way yet. Hard to

Corn Pop

10/20/20 12:38pm

A lot of three and outs the first three games

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 12:59pm

True. It’s really a good thing we aren’t sackless though...

niqmadu

10/20/20 1:13pm

3 INTs? Warner 2, Tooley 1, Udo 1 = 4.

byubrian

10/20/20 1:24pm

INTs on 2-pt conversions aren’t counted in the stat book as an INT.

SlantRoute

10/20/20 1:36pm

Unfortunately Udo's not-quite-a-sack led to his not-quite-an-interception.

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 2:41pm

Just bad technique. Got too high and lost his power

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 2:53pm

Even the great KVN has a few whiffs similar to this Udo’s. I too hope he

StalwartBraveTrue

10/20/20 3:01pm

He’ll get better.

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 3:05pm

Except for the first half of next game.

antiyewt

10/20/20 3:39pm

Wait. Udo got kicked out for targeting too?

StalwartBraveTrue

10/20/20 4:19pm

That was Harper

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 5:50pm

I assume he's gotta be tearin it up in practice for the coaches to trust him as

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 3:43pm

No doubt

puntersarepeople

10/20/20 5:51pm

His first noticeable play of the game looked really amateurish

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 6:38pm

The defensive philosophy is to be passive. That does not lead to TO's.

Ash

10/20/20 2:03pm

I can see where you're coming from... Turnovers are great, but...

canndyman

10/20/20 2:28pm

That is nitpicky, but also true.

Ham

10/20/20 2:29pm

Remember when BYU forced 6 turnovers in one game against Utah and still lost?

br1125

10/20/20 2:31pm

Kalani said in Monday press meeting it's 1 of his top D shortcomings to work on.

SinkingQuffa

10/20/20 2:36pm

That’s fair. I guess if the team and defense are doing well overall the

StalwartBraveTrue

10/20/20 2:38pm

We probably had 3 near-INTs this week that just missed our guys' hands. What I

TailgateU

10/20/20 3:37pm

I agree.

Boring

10/20/20 4:02pm

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