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That targeting call though.
Future_Tacos
10/18/20 1:04am
I have not been more furious about a call in a long time. I couldn't even sit
archie
10/18/20 1:13am
One flag was during the play. That made it 1st and 10. Unsportsmanlike penalty
cougaman
10/18/20 1:44am
Some years ago it would have been 1st and 25
jre85
10/18/20 8:42am
So what happens if it is a dead ball (uc) penalty after a 2nd down play?
farsurfer
10/18/20 9:47am
The headbutt should have been an ejection
CarolinaCoug
10/18/20 1:40am
Yup just like punching someone. He should have been gone.
KingDave
10/18/20 7:38am
True, but I was more bothered by the late hit and likely targeting on Algier...
Doofenshmirtz
10/18/20 9:02am
What about the spit in the face?
Pretorian
10/18/20 9:27am
No one saw that in real time. It was dirty, but the game was over then, so meh
Doofenshmirtz
10/18/20 12:02pm
Yep. Ellis delivered the nail in the coffin. It's why he let that sweet spit
SinkingQuffa
10/18/20 12:05pm
No! Absolutely not! Had a BYU guy done that to... anyone that would be a
Pretorian
10/18/20 5:17pm
I'm not disagreeing. It should be reviewable & punishable.
SinkingQuffa
10/18/20 5:31pm
Hate to break it to you, but it was targeting. As far as first and 10, it’s a
cougaman
10/18/20 1:43am
It met the definition. I thought Micah was trying to tackle appropriately, but the angle for him was a challenge
Bonoman
10/18/20 7:10am
It's not appropriate when you drop your head like he did. I don't think he was
cougaman
10/18/20 9:31am
Little guys have to tackle bigger players somehow. Hitting someone in the stomach that way shouldn’t be targeting
BYU '80
10/18/20 10:57am
The rule isn’t that you can’t drop your head; it is that you can’t lead with the
jkccoug
10/18/20 11:07am
So it was about 1 inch from the exact center therefore not the "crown" OK...
cougaman
10/18/20 11:21am
It was the earhole
jkccoug
10/18/20 11:45am
You're the one nit-picking the call so don't get upset when someone responds in
Saxa
10/18/20 11:45am
I'm agreeing with what the officials called. I'd expect it to be called against
cougaman
10/18/20 11:52am
Could only be the crown of the helmet. Defenseless player applies to hits to
jkccoug
10/18/20 12:54pm
Just reviewed it again. It was a perfect form tackle. His head was in front of
jkccoug
10/18/20 6:08pm
It was really suspect. They act like there's a whole yard
SinkingQuffa
10/18/20 6:16pm
I thought that until I rewatched it. One angle looked bad.
HONOMO
10/18/20 8:47am
He lead with the side of his helmet not the crown. That’s not targeting
jkccoug
10/18/20 11:04am
The worst part was that they didn't eject the Houston player
Jericho
10/18/20 1:52am
The headbutt wasnt a hard hit. You guys are really reaching here.
Mozzymozzy
10/18/20 2:07am
Where in targeting rules does it say it needs to be s hard hit?
Genghis Spreads
10/18/20 2:13am
“Forcible contact”
cougaman
10/18/20 2:19am
Not the same. Even the Houston player thought he was getting tossed.
pilot17
10/18/20 2:46am
It wasn’t targeting. Plain and simple. It was unsportsmanlike conduct. You want
cougaman
10/18/20 2:54am
So many assumptions. You make me laugh.
pilot17
10/18/20 2:55am
I made one assumption. It may not be the case for you, but many want the
cougaman
10/18/20 2:59am
The headbutt was not targeting, but I was surprised he wasn't ejected
bythenumbers
10/18/20 7:37am
The refs would have to consider it fighting. I thought t the nature of it was
cougaman
10/18/20 9:32am
Should have been ejected for the likelihood of causing a fight. They can toss on egregious unsportsmanlike conduct
BYU '80
10/18/20 10:59am
I thought it warranted ejection honestly. I'm a bit agnostic on the targeting on
bythenumbers
10/18/20 12:03pm
And Corbin Kaufusi got ejected for exactly the same thing several years ago.
pilot17
10/18/20 2:47am
When was this play? Was it after the play? Was he ejected for targeting?
cougaman
10/18/20 2:55am
RE: And Corbin Kaufusi got ejected for exactly the same thing several years ago.
cambo
10/18/20 7:31am
I’d try and find it but I’m deployed and don’t have the time. Someone can look
pilot17
10/19/20 5:27am
I remember that play. That's is a late hit and hit to the helmet of a QB.
cougaman
10/19/20 9:04am
I honestly don't know the wording of the rule but I'm guessing a targeting call would come within the course of the play
Chemish
10/18/20 6:09am
He didn’t launch.
idcougarfan
10/18/20 7:30am
This is probably true.
Future_Tacos
10/18/20 8:52am
What exactly was their penalty? should have been 3rd & 20+ but it was 1st &10
Pretorian
10/18/20 9:30am
Penalizing a team and player for endangering oneself is stupid enough in a violent sport
BYU '80
10/18/20 10:58am
Honestly, we won. I don't care.
SinkingQuffa
10/18/20 2:27am
I shouldn’t have cared.
Future_Tacos
10/18/20 8:55am
Oh believe me — your post is something I fully identified with. I enjoyed
SinkingQuffa
10/18/20 9:27am
That’s a cool insight.
Future_Tacos
10/18/20 9:30am
Any penalty granting the offense 1st and 10 is enforced last
The Chelsea Dagger
10/18/20 2:51am
The part that bugs me about it was that he wasn't even flagged for it. Why review it for targeting when they didn't even
Chemish
10/18/20 6:27am
Yes-a targeting call can be initiated by “the booth”, even when no flag was
Greg Kite's 'stache
10/18/20 6:39am
I thought the game was lost at that point
eysikal
10/18/20 7:51am
Just a small correction, a PF is an automatic 1st down...so....
Frank Castiglione
10/18/20 9:26am
Frustrating to go from 3rd and 31 to 1st and 10, should have been 1st and 25.
Captain Stubing
10/18/20 10:00am
I agree it should, and the NCAA should make a change to that rule so it does.
cougaman
10/18/20 10:05am
Except any penalty that gives a team a first down is the last penalty imposed
Greg Kite's 'stache
10/18/20 10:07am
And it should be changed because in this case it’s not logical
BYU '80
10/18/20 11:00am
They should throw out all DB's in every game then. Look how many lead with their
SoValleyCOUG
10/18/20 11:43am
Has rulebook-defined targeting become like rulebook-defined holding that is said
Ripliancum
10/18/20 12:14pm
I think this is a great observation. The rulebook definition of the "crown" is
cwilke1
10/27/20 10:19pm
Exactly. If the threat is to the tackling player it is weird to penalize that players team
BYU '80
10/18/20 1:51pm
Preach brother. Great post. That crew was bad and seemed to not know what they
Gerald-DeGroot
10/18/20 11:50am
Just curious, does anyone have a clip of that play and then the headbutt?
Speedy
10/18/20 1:22pm
Here it is
AF Cougar
10/18/20 4:18pm
Thank you, AF Cougar!
Speedy
10/18/20 4:35pm
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