It’s knowingly using deception to take advantage of the poor, uneducated, and

Aug 23, 2020
12:39:37pm

valleus Truly Addicted User

psychologically primitive. I’m hard pressed to think of any other industry so clearly against the basic concepts of morality.

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I just wanted to say that MLMs are evil organizations

Joysey

8/23/20 11:20am

It’s my biggest gripe with Drew Brees.

scootsy

8/23/20 11:21am

lds culture is very susceptible to affinity fraud

Agnostic-alumni

8/23/20 11:23am

Yup. The ties that bind communities can be double-edged swords.

Linescratcher

8/23/20 11:25am

It would be nice if the founders of MLMs got church discipline.

valleus

8/23/20 11:31am

Agreed....and my mother just signed up with Doterra🤦‍♂️

JohnnyC

8/23/20 11:24am

In my experience it is a necessity

Joysey

8/23/20 11:33am

My parents spent most of their 20s-50s updating their Amway dream boards and evenings approaching people at Disneyland

Slim

8/23/20 11:31am

Weird how different family can be

Gibbcoug

8/23/20 11:56am

You'd think they would tout that philosophy after having made it big.

Ash

8/23/20 12:22pm

They probably did some things right as you became a doctor!

doups3

8/23/20 12:37pm

Yeah but I’m still a mess. That may not be their fault tho

Slim

8/23/20 1:07pm

*Looks at several of BYU’s big corporate sponsors*

TCuz

8/23/20 11:32am

I worked as a call agent for Tahitian Noni back in college (now Morinda)

Chasicle

8/23/20 12:00pm

$120 for 4 liters of juice? Wonder what the actual cost to produce was. $5?

El Paso Coug

8/23/20 12:16pm

Granted they DID fly in the pulp from Tahiti and rehydrate it in Utah

Chasicle

8/23/20 10:18pm

Made me think of this scene in The Incredibles

Bandersnatch

8/23/20 2:04pm

I worked there too. I did sales support as well as Japanese sales. It always made me feel terrible talking to people who

fiberpost

8/23/20 7:56pm

I didn't like the owners at all. At one of our summer BBQs, one of the owners

Chasicle

8/23/20 10:21pm

My best friend's wife did that too 16-17 years back

SinkingQuffa

8/24/20 4:39pm

I think it was once a month they would give us two bottles and then

Chasicle

8/25/20 1:44am

Why is this chaffing you at this moment in time?

BringYourUltimate

8/23/20 12:04pm

Just recently had another falling out with a friend over it

Joysey

8/23/20 3:25pm

Ask them how much money they would earn from the sale.

Acorn

8/23/20 3:35pm

That’s a good idea

Joysey

8/23/20 3:44pm

That might hurt their feelings even more.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/23/20 11:06pm

So sad. Not your friend, actually,

buckles

8/24/20 10:34pm

Pyramid schemes aren’t legal.

Joe Banks

8/23/20 12:23pm

Here’s the difference between a pyramid scheme and an mlm

Slim

8/23/20 1:12pm

It’s no coincidence that MLM is the sales model of choice for so many products

hansel

8/23/20 1:33pm

Right on. And fascinating that a pixie stick - and the promise of money - can

valleus

8/23/20 1:41pm

RE: Pyramid schemes aren’t legal.

bluesloth

8/23/20 2:34pm

I don’t know anyone destroyed by MLMs

Acorn

8/23/20 12:33pm

It’s knowingly using deception to take advantage of the poor, uneducated, and

valleus

8/23/20 12:39pm

Sounds like the 2 party political system

braddahmike

8/23/20 12:41pm

Touché

Slim

8/23/20 1:14pm

I don’t understand your math.

Acorn

8/23/20 12:59pm

Key word is deception. The business model is a pyramid scheme that is

valleus

8/23/20 1:11pm

I disagree. I’ve tried Amway products

Acorn

8/23/20 1:20pm

Why aren’t Amway or MLm products ever sold at Target? That’s the key question.

valleus

8/23/20 1:42pm

Do you have any idea what that requires?

Acorn

8/23/20 1:56pm

If you can’t sell something via normal retail channels your product is probably

valleus

8/23/20 2:52pm

Tupperware, Mary Kay, Christmas Around The World, Pampered Chef

Acorn

8/23/20 3:48pm

How does the Amazon model take advantage of poor, uneducated?

bluesloth

8/23/20 4:05pm

You haven’t heard? Capitalism takes advantage of the poor and uneducated.

Acorn

8/23/20 4:20pm

I’ve heard that lots from people. What does that have to do with Amazon vs MLMs?

bluesloth

8/23/20 4:29pm

Something like 97-99% or MLMers don’t make money

TCuz

8/23/20 12:43pm

If their recruits don’t make money, I didn’t think they made money?

Acorn

8/23/20 12:52pm

Often new recruits are encouraged to buy product themselves in bulk

TCuz

8/23/20 12:59pm

I don’t have the statistics, but it would be interesting to see.

Acorn

8/23/20 1:01pm

Don’t know about actual small businesses, but you can look up many MLM’s income disclosures

TCuz

8/23/20 1:24pm

Looks like restaurant failure rate

Acorn

8/23/20 1:38pm

You think 97% of restaurants make less than ~$100 REVENUE a year?

TCuz

8/23/20 1:44pm

Yeah... that is what I said...I’m out.

Acorn

8/23/20 2:00pm

Excellent point. How many times have you bought

Coug Dude

8/24/20 11:43pm

My wife was virtually attending one of the sex products one this week and of

ponys

8/23/20 2:30pm

This is next level Hahahaha

Joysey

8/23/20 3:28pm

Wait, there are sex product MLM's?

Cougar8Duck

8/23/20 6:12pm

I do software for MLMs. They sell everything. Some of the non traditional ones

timpjynx

8/24/20 11:00am

RE: I just wanted to say that MLMs are evil organizations

Evergreen

8/23/20 3:09pm

It’s part of the lifestyle to lie about how well you are doing

Joysey

8/23/20 3:29pm

I was at a meeting for ACN a number of years ago when a fight broke out

Leishdoggydog

8/23/20 3:59pm

Not a fan of MLM's but any relationship that is "destroyed" by one was not...

ditch

8/23/20 10:09pm

RE: Not a fan of MLM's but any relationship that is "destroyed" by one was

rmreitz

8/24/20 9:17am

Why the hate? My wife does well in a legit direct sales company

vabeachcoug

8/23/20 11:43pm

99% of people work and instead of getting paid they lose money... it's just not right....

HarlemCoug

8/23/20 11:53pm

Not what I see with my wife's company

vabeachcoug

8/24/20 6:31am

99% of people aren't cut out to be salespeople. I'm one of them. I'd suck at MLM

TailgateU

8/24/20 8:07am

I refused to join Amway a dozen times, but they did have some great products.

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