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Mar 15, 2020
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SandYFan
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Why is this so hard? HOSPITALS THAT ARE OVERRUN WITH ELDERLY PATIENTS
CAN'T TREAT YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT ALSO NEED HOSPITAL TREATMENT.
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More die from Influenza in 2019 than Covid-19? True, but here is the problem...
doctorcoug
3/15/20 10:41pm
Thanks Doc! Good luck and stay safe!
Josef K
3/15/20 10:45pm
I deserve no award. My colleagues? Totally different situation.
doctorcoug
3/15/20 11:23pm
So many one liners we like to throw out there - are just uninformed
Boanerges
3/15/20 10:45pm
How quickly could $10B add ICU beds?
Joe Banks
3/15/20 10:46pm
Hospitals have a hard enough time staying open with all the regulations in the
fattycoug
3/15/20 10:50pm
I blame lawyers for the excessive medical regulations. Really.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/15/20 11:01pm
Don’t blame lawyers, blame Medicare. Can’t believe people want that to be the
akmewg
3/15/20 11:26pm
Lawyers pushed multi-million lawsuits for stupid medical stuff. Hospitals......
BleedCougarBlue2
3/15/20 11:46pm
Akmewg is right, the regs are much more tied to CMS, not lawyers
D.T. Survivor
3/16/20 6:52am
It’s my understanding, the facilities would not need to be that complex. The
BYU-Ite
3/15/20 11:03pm
Not even fluids which can make worse. They’re also typically hemodynamically
cougfanz
3/15/20 11:12pm
I don't know. I just know that I work at a hospital and it's almost soul crushin
fattycoug
3/15/20 11:19pm
I doubt vents can be built and shipped overnight. That's the issue.
doctorcoug
3/15/20 10:50pm
I would bet that if you put a billion or so dollars on the manufacturers desk
BYU-Ite
3/15/20 10:59pm
That my take. 100 million dollar contract. 100 million to any lab that develops
cougfanz
3/15/20 11:16pm
That is really what this entire thing boils down to - hospital capacity.
Pistol Shrimp
3/15/20 10:51pm
This is where I kind of disagree. With the damage we are doing to the economy
Lance71
3/15/20 11:21pm
You can also utilize tele medicine to have one doc manage a lot of patients
cougfanz
3/15/20 11:25pm
It's all about vents. How many ventilators are available...we already use
doctorcoug
3/15/20 11:28pm
Yup. Just making that point to others how you really don’t need a physician in
cougfanz
3/15/20 11:30pm
In a pinch, could a bi-pap machine work in place of a ventilator for some?
SafetyFirst
3/16/20 9:22am
Helps. Also concern it can spread infection more to staff. Not an end all
cougfanz
3/16/20 9:48am
We also can't sustain 6-12 months of economic upheaval, though
fattycoug
3/15/20 10:53pm
But to what extent should we worry about the economy? Is it okay to lay off hundreds of thousands
Brisco
3/15/20 10:53pm
That is the million dollar question.
idcougarfan
3/15/20 10:55pm
Why is this so hard? HOSPITALS THAT ARE OVERRUN WITH ELDERLY PATIENTS
SandYFan
3/15/20 10:55pm
So we shouldn't worry about the economy?
IceCreamButt
3/15/20 10:58pm
Don't know where I said anything about the economy. What I did talk about
SandYFan
3/15/20 10:59pm
Maybe it's time you start talking about it.
Brisco
3/15/20 11:02pm
it Sucks. People die every day that maybe could’ve been saved but we don’t put
jholling
3/15/20 11:03pm
You didn't even read my post, did you.
SandYFan
3/15/20 11:03pm
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All-American
3/15/20 11:16pm
Like you apparently didn't read briscos but looks like you still replied.
IceCreamButt
3/15/20 11:17pm
Clearly I prioritize hospital care for those who need it over economy.
SandYFan
3/15/20 11:18pm
You replied to a comment talking about what extent we should worry about the
IceCreamButt
3/15/20 11:06pm
I honestly don't care. The economy can rebound. It always has.
SandYFan
3/15/20 11:07pm
The economy will rebound, but there will be many families and individuals who go through a lot of suffering because
No touching
3/15/20 11:12pm
Better than those who need hospital care not getting it.
SandYFan
3/15/20 11:13pm
You would rather have suicides, broken homes, children suffering
kotacoug
3/15/20 11:38pm
Apparently he doesn’t care about that
mobius
3/15/20 11:43pm
Try reading.
SandYFan
3/15/20 11:46pm
I did. Found nothing that said otherwise.
mobius
3/15/20 11:49pm
You can't be bothered to read my posts, huh?
SandYFan
3/15/20 11:46pm
Could be that are choosing physical health over mental health.
jholling
3/15/20 11:38pm
Forget the hospitals for a moment. How are hundreds of thousands of laid off workers going to pay their rent and eat?
Brisco
3/15/20 11:01pm
I'd prefer not to forget about the people dying because they can't get
SandYFan
3/15/20 11:02pm
You don't have to forget about either
fattycoug
3/15/20 11:03pm
If there are so many of those, how are the old people with Covid getting admitted?
Brisco
3/15/20 11:05pm
Why is this so hard? IF YOU SHUT DOWN THE ECONOMY FOR TOO LONG TERRIBLE, TERRIBL
fattycoug
3/15/20 11:01pm
I'm going to prioritize people getting hospital treatment they need. You do
SandYFan
3/15/20 11:02pm
People who are out of work will not be able to afford medical care.
buhlcougar
3/16/20 12:13am
Show up at the ER and you'll be taken care of. It's America.
SandYFan
3/16/20 1:00am
Name checks out.
vagabonder
3/15/20 10:54pm
Do people in ICU with "regular" flu have stays in that 3 day range? Just wonder
nomomtn
3/15/20 10:58pm
The concept is it’s spread out in the flu season and not all in one week
cougfanz
3/15/20 11:07pm
This morbid, sorry about that, post-influenza pneumonia has a much faster time
doctorcoug
3/15/20 11:20pm
Thank you for all your information. The more we understand the better.
nomomtn
3/15/20 11:29pm
True. But I could also go to any hospital and send at least 50% home
cougfanz
3/15/20 11:06pm
Seems we should take empty hotels and turn them into makeshift hospitals. Especially with hotels that have kitchen
HarlemCoug
3/15/20 11:30pm
Who mans these “hospitals” without equipment or the equipment to keep u safe?
Nakedbootleg
3/15/20 11:46pm
Im guessing if this gets bad that we are going to have most of our ERs filled with vented patients.
Virginia Ute
3/16/20 12:36am
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