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Feb 17, 2020
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BYUfan92
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For 5 mill, a few lost picks that don’t impact you for years, a GM & a manager
You got a World Series title. That’s pretty cheap many fans would say.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Astros players get plunked all year long
LifeLongLakerFan
2/17/20 8:55pm
There was action against the organization, but I agree with your basic point.
CouchPotato
2/17/20 9:01pm
They just fired the best GM and the best manager in the game. They also ensured
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:03pm
Luhnow and Hinch were complete tools. A couple years of tainted winning don't
Jesse Pinkman
2/17/20 9:10pm
I think the reason people aren’t getting over it is because it’s unacceptable
Medute
2/17/20 9:13pm
I think it's telling you talk about the Dodgers and Yankees "buying their way into contention"
jdub
2/17/20 9:16pm
It’s the truth. I don’t care if it’s tone deaf. I also agree that they should
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:20pm
Overblown? They literally won the WS by cheating. They almost won a second one cheating
jdub
2/17/20 9:23pm
Exhibit A.
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:24pm
LOL. The best manager in the game? How are we to know?
LifeLongLakerFan
2/17/20 9:19pm
They broke the rules and paid an appropriate penalty. The advantage they
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:23pm
Marginal? Have you ever played the game?
LifeLongLakerFan
2/17/20 9:26pm
They were better on the road than at home. They have a stockpile of great
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:33pm
They also cheated on the road
BYUfan92
2/17/20 9:47pm
Where did they set up the road camera?
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:49pm
Code breaker info being fed to players live time, was reported on
BYUfan92
2/17/20 9:55pm
How?
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:58pm
See my post just below - from Ken Rosenthal
BYUfan92
2/17/20 10:06pm
Evidence?
gmj81
2/17/20 9:55pm
Here you go
BYUfan92
2/17/20 10:05pm
One more here, all below are direct quotes,
BYUfan92
2/17/20 10:13pm
Sounds like allegations not evidence but even you quoted the algorithm is legal
gmj81
2/17/20 10:20pm
Astro fans are the greatest . . . Still trying to defend this crap . . .
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 10:26pm
But defending what they did per se, just don't get why it's the end of the world
gmj81
2/17/20 10:30pm
I don't think it is either. It just hilariously how delusional the Astros are.
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 10:38pm
Because they used it to win a world championship
BYUfan92
2/17/20 11:10pm
And they were a very mediocre team and had been a terrible team for decades
AZ Coug
2/17/20 11:15pm
There still hasn't been evidence of road cheating yet. Not saying there wasn't
gmj81
2/18/20 4:33am
They're like Utes with a drawl
AZ Coug
2/17/20 10:30pm
Why are you saying quote unquote? It’s also not allegations if you read it
BYUfan92
2/17/20 10:33pm
Hinch was 89-123 with the D-backs. A dismal failure until he started cheating.
AZ Coug
2/17/20 10:18pm
Lemme guess....Astros fan?
BYUfan92
2/17/20 9:21pm
Yes, since I was 8 years old. Never have I felt more disappointed in my team.
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:23pm
Astro fans should boo 'em tell they trade 'em all. You guys deserve better
777
2/17/20 9:29pm
If everybody who ever stole signs were kicked out there’d be nobody left. They
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:35pm
Everybody steals signs. Not everybody uses technology like the Astros and Red Sox to do it. Stop bringing "everybody"
CouchPotato
2/17/20 9:39pm
I meant to say that everybody steals signs, non electronically, and before 2017
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:43pm
Come on now. Don't justify this. If the A's did this I'd boo them all
777
2/17/20 9:41pm
Fiers and Kemp did do it. So get to it
gmj81
2/17/20 9:48pm
I already have. I hope they get 50 games or traded. And he was the only
777
2/17/20 10:42pm
After he already has his ring though, right? And after signing a with
gmj81
2/18/20 4:36am
I’m not justifying anything. I’ve said multiple times throughout this thread
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:48pm
For 5 mill, a few lost picks that don’t impact you for years, a GM & a manager
BYUfan92
2/17/20 9:45pm
I think the players union would allow it, but the trade for immunity was necessary. I think they should forfeit the WS
shimmy
2/17/20 9:26pm
Spoken like a true Astro . . . Whats next, the cheating didn't affect the games?
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 9:39pm
We already know the Astros players, coaches and front office are garbage people
AZ Coug
2/17/20 10:20pm
Hard to argue with that, you do seem like a solid judge of character. I’ve
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:26pm
I guess I missed the outcry among the Astros fans over the scandal
AZ Coug
2/17/20 10:31pm
You have missed it. It hit a lot of us pretty hard. You’ll excuse us though if
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:40pm
You're really gonna try to defend this crap?
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 10:35pm
I don’t care what they say to the media, and I’m just a regular fan, I’m not
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:42pm
Deflagte was nothing. This isn't nothing.
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 10:53pm
Deflategate dominated sports media for 6 months, and riled up irrational fans
BigD Coug
2/17/20 11:02pm
I agree with you 100%. I didn't mean that deflategate didn't get attention, just
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 11:09pm
That's not what people were saying at the time.
gmj81
2/18/20 4:39am
This is the kind of hyperbole that totally ruins any point you may have
gmj81
2/17/20 10:31pm
Thanks for your inputs.
AZ Coug
2/17/20 10:32pm
Please provide. As yet it's just unnamed sources from what I've seen without
gmj81
2/18/20 4:42am
All of your points were ruined as soon as you became an Astros fan
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 10:41pm
There's that hyperbole again
gmj81
2/18/20 4:40am
Lol.
StantonMac
2/17/20 9:40pm
In what way are the Dodgers buying their way to contention?
StantonMac
2/17/20 9:46pm
They are a Tier I, top 4 payroll in baseball. That alone ensures they contend
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:57pm
As your guy Correa says... you should get some facts
StantonMac
2/17/20 11:49pm
Here are the MLB payroll rankings since McCourt sold the team:
BigD Coug
2/18/20 12:20am
The irony is that the Dodgers have not bought their way into contention.
tarzan15
2/17/20 9:54pm
They have a top 2 payroll in baseball. They have smartly built their team
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:02pm
Let's not shy away from the fact that the Astros are #3
tarzan15
2/17/20 11:02pm
Yep, the Greinke trade pushed them into the stratosphere, but then they had to
BigD Coug
2/17/20 11:08pm
Let's be honest, there was zero chance they were signing Cole
tarzan15
2/17/20 11:33pm
Also, check out this out:
tarzan15
2/17/20 11:03pm
I am as upset as anyone with what the Astros did. However,
BigEasyCougar
2/17/20 9:36pm
Precisely why MLB should punish them
Colorado
2/17/20 9:38pm
Yep. But I still don’t think other teams should throw at them.
BigEasyCougar
2/17/20 9:42pm
And they most likely won't. Pitchers have been neutered in this league.
777
2/17/20 9:44pm
Legal ramifications? So those aren't in play for the everyday intentional
LifeLongLakerFan
2/17/20 9:46pm
Any body intentionally trying to hurt a hitter should be charged with assault
gmj81
2/17/20 9:58pm
There should be legal ramifications for cheating. So many lives affected by it.
Colorado
2/17/20 10:30pm
So many lives? Pray tell
gmj81
2/17/20 10:32pm
many pitchers lost reputations. Most of them will be fine financially but
Colorado
2/18/20 5:55am
I'm sure the buzzers or trash cans will warn them about any bean balls
AZ Coug
2/17/20 10:34pm
So what should the legal ramifications be for the Astros? Insider trading?
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 10:43pm
Unfair business practices. Yes. I hope that pitcher wins the lawsuit.
BigEasyCougar
2/18/20 5:07am
Agreed. They should be punished.
LifeLongLakerFan
2/17/20 9:41pm
Apparently so.
BigD Coug
2/17/20 9:50pm
Yep. And no apologies for it here.
LifeLongLakerFan
2/17/20 10:00pm
Alrighty then. Let the beatings begin.
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:22pm
See the OP.
LifeLongLakerFan
2/17/20 10:39pm
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