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Sep 19, 2019
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puntersarepeople
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I don’t recommend going full Amish
But anyone that thinks any 14 year old needs a phone is flat out wrong.
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If your kids have phones and data plans
Future_Tacos
9/18/19 9:34am
I just want to point out your kids can totally do all of this without a phone.
SandYFan
9/18/19 9:37am
Care to elaborate?
zerigke
9/18/19 9:41am
Kids can send nude pictures of themselves to others without a phone. Kids
SandYFan
9/18/19 9:43am
Just that a phone with Apps makes it way easier.
Turnpike Lane
9/18/19 9:47am
Maybe for sending photos, but the rest?
SandYFan
9/18/19 9:55am
Totally makes it easier and worse
LCcoug
9/18/19 11:01pm
Any WiFi enabled device; or they can borrow one from a friend.
El Fuego
9/18/19 9:58am
If kids go to that extent, unless you have them under constant video
Zedhead
9/18/19 9:39am
Teach them correct principles....and communicate as much as possible.
JohnnyC
9/18/19 9:45am
Uh, no. That's not "all" we can do.
Tortillero
9/18/19 10:39am
Depends on the kid.
rcbyufan
9/18/19 10:43am
"We see the undertow and we say...""There's the undertow! There's the undertow!"
zerigke
9/18/19 10:45am
I can’t accept that as a basis for not doing whatever you can
WizeGuise
9/18/19 9:48am
You can also not hand them a loaded gun when they don’t know how to properly use
Blue2thebone
9/19/19 1:16pm
There are some good apps that lock these out. I use ourpact and have had...
whiteninja
9/18/19 9:42am
don't blame technology... blame ignorance.
TheLost
9/18/19 9:44am
I believe that was my intended point. Why would anybody blame the phone?
Future_Tacos
9/18/19 9:46am
Happens all the time
supertux
9/18/19 10:08am
My father is in IT for his profession...he has no clue what the dumb stuff i did
JohnnyC
9/18/19 9:49am
You are very naive thinking those tools aren't circumvented.
j20
9/18/19 1:48pm
"Not that I think my boys are doing anything" - If you gave your kids unfiltered
WDaddy
9/18/19 9:49am
And even if you did put filters on, there ways around that as well.
JohnnyC
9/18/19 9:59am
Yep. I've tried every phone monitoring app out there. My 18 yr old son has found
WDaddy
9/18/19 10:00am
Kids really don't need data, but they get wifi everywhere so it almost doesn't
Baron
9/18/19 9:59am
We have fought what feels like a never-ending battle over this with our son.
Phasor
9/18/19 10:04am
You're not alone on this.
j20
9/18/19 1:51pm
Don’t get me wrong. The best medicine is a strong foundation of faith and a
StalwartBraveTrue
9/19/19 12:06am
Honestly, there is only so much we as parents can do
A_blue_car
9/18/19 10:17am
Its just like every other 'vice' (smoking, drinking, drugs, sex... etc)
TheLost
9/18/19 10:48am
Except ... you don't put the whiskey bottle in their hand, but the biggest
runnincoug
9/18/19 11:18am
Yet people have no problem giving teens a car... a device that can kill...
TheLost
9/18/19 11:29am
Driving is also not the same as social media
runnincoug
9/18/19 2:57pm
Everything you said is true... and proves my point..
TheLost
9/18/19 4:03pm
I've known many parents who take your approach and regret it, and the research
runnincoug
9/18/19 5:19pm
What ever works best for you... 👍 .. however it goes back to what i said before
TheLost
9/18/19 6:01pm
I'm well aware of the parental restrictions available and how flip phones
runnincoug
9/18/19 6:22pm
A whole generation is being devastated?
A_blue_car
9/18/19 9:59pm
anecdotes are of course not research evidence. Here's the research evidence.
runnincoug
9/18/19 10:53pm
Could some of these increases be because it’s more common to talk about
puntersarepeople
9/19/19 7:18am
Yes, but that doesn't seem to explain all the increase.
runnincoug
9/19/19 8:09am
but, but, but, without smart phones they'll miss out on ice cream parties!
Mitty
9/19/19 4:44pm
No need to give them a phone though. It’s not like they can’t learn to have one
puntersarepeople
9/18/19 9:46pm
You are a little outdated in that thinking... some kids NEED a smartphone..
TheLost
9/19/19 8:03am
I'll add health reasons to that list
A_blue_car
9/19/19 8:10am
I have two teenagers involved in HS sports/orchestra/theater without data plans
runnincoug
9/19/19 8:14am
You know WiFi is exactly the same as a 'data plan' right? its even worse...
TheLost
9/19/19 8:24am
Yes, I do research in media and psychology. I'm well aware of wifi's abilities
runnincoug
9/19/19 9:31am
Thanks for posting. As you said earlier, I wish I has waited to give my kids a
WDaddy
9/19/19 9:46am
RE: Yes, I do research in media and psychology. I'm well aware of wifi's
Phasor
9/19/19 10:45am
I think this is a very "real life" post that illustrates that it isn't as easy
A_blue_car
9/19/19 11:19am
Really good post... thank you.
runnincoug
9/19/19 11:44am
I don’t recommend going full Amish
puntersarepeople
9/19/19 3:53pm
I can't figure out why anyone gives young teens cell phones. Been
Mitty
9/18/19 9:13pm
My 14 year old nephew spent a week with us this summer.
Blue2thebone
9/18/19 11:12pm
So...everybody. Looks like you covered your bases well there.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/19/19 12:10am
And yet you are okay withholding driving privileges until 16.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/19/19 12:00am
A phone isn't a whiskey bottle
A_blue_car
9/18/19 11:46am
It's a whisky bar.
CougarMandias
9/19/19 5:25am
True but you don’t teach a kid about gun safety and then leave a loaded
StalwartBraveTrue
9/18/19 11:57pm
The hands in the air defeatist approach is just an excuse for lazy parenting.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/18/19 11:55pm
No twitter?
puntersarepeople
9/19/19 7:20am
Adults shouldn't even be on Twitter.
rcbyufan
9/19/19 7:30am
Haha!! It is an interesting app
puntersarepeople
9/19/19 1:08pm
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