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Aug 14, 2019
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Benfica1
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No need to baselessly try to diminish plays from 40 years ago.
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Wow, look at #48 on this list. I think if replay existed in '84 we don't win the
macdizzle
8/14/19 8:16am
Way to give utes a play-by-play to explain why BYU's National Championship was a hoax...
BYUALWAYSNUM1
8/14/19 8:19am
I speak truth. Even if it is uncomfortable.
macdizzle
8/14/19 8:19am
Well, you can't see his feet when everyone is piling on. So,...
Benfica1
8/14/19 10:20am
Actually you can from the initial view. He breaks the plane before he is out.
BrotherBrighamsBeard
8/14/19 11:44am
I agree. He doesn't go out at any point, and he breaks the plane. I don't
macdizzle
8/14/19 4:59pm
See the freeze frame down below with CosimosPrime
Benfica1
8/15/19 8:37am
Great freeze frame. He looks in to me, though. It looks like there is space
macdizzle
8/15/19 8:56am
It's pretty close either way. The officials had to make the call in real time.
Benfica1
8/15/19 9:37am
I agree. It was just an observation on a play I’d never seen before
macdizzle
8/15/19 10:37am
Kind of like when replay existed when Bradley’s knee was down?
Punk Philosopher
8/14/19 11:24am
I also remember reading somewhere that a TD vs SMU in 1980 miracle bowl
Punk Philosopher
8/14/19 2:17pm
Never heard this. Don't believe it. The ref call touchdown pretty quickly.
Benfica1
8/14/19 2:31pm
No need to baselessly try to diminish plays from 40 years ago.
Benfica1
8/14/19 2:32pm
Baseless? I read it with my own two eyes and I think you may be confused at
Punk Philosopher
8/15/19 11:21am
Send link. I googled and found nothing. Thus, baseless (no backing).
Benfica1
8/15/19 11:37am
believe what you want dude, I read it in a magazine in the late 90's
Punk Philosopher
8/15/19 11:45am
Here is a video of the play in question: McMahon to Matt Braga
Punk Philosopher
8/15/19 8:36pm
According to Paul James' recollection in "Cougar Tails", when Braga came back
CosimosPrime
8/15/19 12:17pm
Maybe this was what I read. That sounds about right. At least now Benfica1 can
Punk Philosopher
8/15/19 8:18pm
Cant confirm either way. Regardless, NCs that didn't require some luck: 0
Gustav
8/14/19 8:22am
can easily confirm that macdizzle is right about play #48 and Pitt runner
cwilke1
8/14/19 9:18am
Can't 'easily' confirm since you can't see the runners feet when the ball breaks
ManicBlue
8/14/19 10:06am
by today's standards, that one is a slam dunk overturn.
archie
8/14/19 12:56pm
You must not have looked at it very carefully and it has to be more clear cut to
ManicBlue
8/14/19 4:15pm
Cal doesn't beat Stanford either on the kick return if there were replay
mwcoug
8/14/19 8:23am
Well, Brandon Bradley was down and even replay screwed it up
Indy Coug
8/14/19 8:25am
We still got the Crystal Trophy
Turnpike Lane
8/14/19 8:26am
To be clear. The Immaculate Reception likely hit the ground. Rice certainly
macdizzle
8/14/19 8:27am
And Utah doesn't beat BYU in 2002 or 2010 (if done properly). TCU 2005. Etc etc etc etc. Feels so great doesn't it?
mulletino
8/14/19 8:27am
My biggest takeaway: BYUTV criminally under-rated the 1996 season. The
BerkeleyCoug
8/14/19 8:38am
Agreed. That A&M TD is a Top 10 play for sure
macdizzle
8/14/19 8:39am
The biggest problem by far is that there are a lot of top plays for which they don't have footage
Indy Coug
8/14/19 8:45am
There was no season except for 84 that was better then the 96 season. Blue Army!
nybyblue
8/14/19 1:24pm
But replay didn't exist back then. The 49ers don't beat the packers on the epic young to owens last second play if the
indocoug
8/14/19 8:39am
I agree. I just had never seen that play before. I used the Rice example
macdizzle
8/14/19 8:45am
p.s. #39 & #32 would not be touchdowns today as Vai celebrated before he got in the endzone and Reynolds continued play
indocoug
8/14/19 8:51am
IOW, football is over-regulated today
Indy Coug
8/14/19 9:00am
Ironically, that play with Reynolds was the last possible BYU game he could have
andrewg3
8/14/19 4:31pm
That's a pretty awesome video though.
RdF3
8/14/19 9:08am
I remember Nebraska winning on a 5th down and winning the NC.
PJMort
8/14/19 9:16am
I think that was Colorado against Missouri.
SpiffCoug
8/14/19 9:17am
Yep, that's the one
Indy Coug
8/14/19 9:19am
You’re right. My bad.
PJMort
8/14/19 9:24am
Oh brother, apply that to every play for the season, then do the same with Washington, and any other in the running
Hank Rearden
8/14/19 9:27am
Would like to have a punter that can hit like Payne did. That was funny to see.
Blue for Life
8/14/19 9:31am
I haven't watched the full video and yet I know the exact play you're...
BleedCougarBlue2
8/14/19 9:45am
Calls usually go both ways. (except when Pac refs). They try to even it out.
ImuaKahuku
8/14/19 9:31am
I'm no college football ref, but you said "It looks like he got the ball on...
BleedCougarBlue2
8/14/19 9:42am
it was a judgment call then just like it is now, but the rules were the same
cwilke1
8/14/19 9:52am
Thx for the explanation &, yes, that is what I understood them to be. But...
BleedCougarBlue2
8/14/19 10:20am
I don’t know what you’re seeing. Looks to me like pylon was untouched
Heath Squashwell
8/14/19 9:51am
True, but the ball did cross the plane of the goal line.
SoCalCoug
8/14/19 10:03am
That's inconclusive. You can't see in the replay where his right foot is when he
Throwaway59840
8/14/19 9:56am
its a pretty easy one. he jumped and his feet are in the air when he crosses
cwilke1
8/14/19 10:05am
If you look at the first, full-speed clip, he's clearly dragging his feet out of
Throwaway59840
8/14/19 10:17am
Yep. ^^^^^ exactly correct. Good eye for detail.
BleedCougarBlue2
8/14/19 10:21am
Looks like his foot contacts the sideline before the ball enters the endzone
CosimosPrime
8/14/19 10:30am
This AND it doesn't matter. The game was played over 30 years ago.
Benfica1
8/14/19 10:36am
Counter arguments
BrotherBrighamsBeard
8/15/19 8:59am
Counter-counter argument: (1) paralax view of goal line can be deceptive; (2)
CosimosPrime
8/15/19 12:04pm
I slowed it down on youtube to 1/10 the speed and you're right
MAcc15Coug
8/14/19 11:03am
I used Pim particles and Harry Potter’s invisibility cloak and went back in time
StalwartBraveTrue
8/14/19 11:26am
There are 2 views of this play: 1 from behind the runner & 1 from in front...
BleedCougarBlue2
8/14/19 10:16am
Don’t go down that rabbit hole. Every championship season pre-replay
StalwartBraveTrue
8/14/19 10:22am
my takeaway: no top plays in the last 5 years
run26
8/14/19 10:51am
Yeah, well that video was made like 6 years ago.
robin
8/14/19 11:05am
my bad. i thought it was new. Still, do we have very many highlights
run26
8/14/19 1:56pm
First, I guarantee that that wasn't the only mistake (if we concede a mistake) made by the refs that day. Second,
CalGTR
8/14/19 10:57am
Excellent point about it not being the last play of the game.
BleedCougarBlue2
8/14/19 11:17am
We would have had a 3rd party intervene during a replay anyway 😉
SUAVO
8/14/19 11:02am
Thank you Eeyore, if it's a good day, which i doubt, you've thrown water on it.
Rigormortise
8/14/19 11:59am
#32 Matt Payne was the hardest hittin' punter in da leaaague!
Sexytaxman
8/14/19 12:10pm
Amen to that!
BleedCougarBlue2
8/14/19 2:04pm
I expected to see solid evidence based on your post. This is very questionable.
doups3
8/14/19 1:18pm
Agreed. This would likely stand.
Refugee
8/14/19 2:47pm
This and about 1 million gazillion plays since the game was invented...
Refugee
8/14/19 2:46pm
p.s.s. Bad Calls are part of sports. Ask the NO Saints.
indocoug
8/15/19 11:52am
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