That ignores the fact that BYU students are essentially free-loading off the

Apr 17, 2019
9:34:38am

Odysseus All-American

previous (risky to say current) success of athletics. You're trying to segregate athletics & academics when in reality they are inseparably connected.

Athletics are the tires that have been essential to the car working all along.

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I'm really surprised by some of the responses to this thread. Correct me if I'm

Odysseus

4/17/19 9:21am

RE: I'm really surprised by some of the responses to this thread. Correct me if

Frank Castiglione

4/17/19 9:24am

RE: I'm really surprised by some of the responses to this thread. Correct me if

letthewookiewin

4/17/19 9:28am

What are BYU's customers paying BYU to do?

Mises

4/17/19 9:30am

That ignores the fact that BYU students are essentially free-loading off the

Odysseus

4/17/19 9:34am

You're trying to find a correlation where there is none.

ochobeeguy

4/17/19 9:37am

RE: You're trying to find a correlation where there is none.

Odysseus

4/17/19 9:39am

RE: You're trying to find a correlation where there is none.

Odysseus

4/17/19 9:45am

RE: You're trying to find a correlation where there is none.

Odysseus

4/17/19 9:50am

That's not a peer reviewed source. Again, you fail at the basic rigor of proof

Iki_Balam

4/17/19 10:17am

How does an increase in applications help BYU academically?

ochobeeguy

4/17/19 9:47am

Is that a serious question?

Odysseus

4/17/19 9:51am

His point is that the primary driver of university demand is actual academics

Mises

4/17/19 10:15am

Dont waste your time. This guy probably thinks communism works

Iki_Balam

4/17/19 10:18am

I’m not attending BYU, my kids don’t go to

FanofBYU

4/17/19 12:21pm

Are you serious? You pay tithing because you chose to. It's your religion!

Iki_Balam

4/17/19 12:35pm

I am commanded to pay tithing. I don't get to direct how my tithing is used.

FanofBYU

4/17/19 1:20pm

But back to my primary point - didn't my tuition subsidize the Humanities

Odysseus

4/17/19 10:19am

Quite the opposite, actually.

Mises

4/17/19 10:40am

Your tuition didn't even cover the cost of your education,, let alone subsidize

dratax

4/17/19 11:40am

Immoral & unethical? I must be missing something. If BYU wants to use a part of

Odysseus

4/17/19 12:00pm

that's not what you're advocating

Dissenter

4/17/19 12:06pm

and forcing someone else to pay for your hobby is immoral. That has previously

dratax

4/17/19 12:15pm

BYU can charge whatever they want for tuition and subsequently spend it on

Odysseus

4/17/19 12:26pm

that's. not. the. point.

Dissenter

4/17/19 12:45pm

Yes he/she is

Iki_Balam

4/17/19 12:54pm

Is it immoral that my tithes are being used to subsidize someone’s education?

FanofBYU

4/17/19 12:28pm

Yes, it's legit.3 of the top 5 universities on that list have no varsity sports

ptcougr

4/17/19 12:38pm

You don't think an increase in applications helps a school academically?

Odysseus

4/17/19 12:45pm

Athletics is the marketing tool that has made BYU what it is today

CaliWG

4/17/19 9:43am

The counterargument is that what's made BYU what it is, in an academic sense,

kos

4/17/19 9:54am

Why aren't BYU-Idaho/Hawai'i ranked comparably then?

CaliWG

4/17/19 10:19am

Sports is way down on the list for why people go to BYU. If it's even on it.

ochobeeguy

4/17/19 9:54am

That may be the case now, but it wasn't the case in the 80s & 90s

CaliWG

4/17/19 10:47am

Did you attend BYU because of what Lavell built? Or because you wanted to go to

kos

4/17/19 7:58pm

If BYU didn’t have LaVell I probably would’ve gone to UC Davis

CaliWG

4/17/19 8:08pm

Free-loading is probably not the right descriptor.

Mises

4/17/19 9:58am

It's clear you have no understanding of how colleges work

Iki_Balam

4/17/19 10:16am

No, academics and sports are separately connected. Ref BYU-I, BYU-H, Cal Tech,

ptcougr

4/17/19 12:23pm

I agree with this, but maybe athletics has already served its purpose?

lilpenny

4/17/19 1:28pm

That could very well be

Odysseus

4/17/19 1:33pm

Good luck fighting that fight. BTW, I agree 100% with you.

westsidecoug

4/17/19 9:52am

My wife started her college education in graphic design, then advertising, and

LilToney

4/17/19 10:01am

It's not subsidizing a hobby - it's investing in the best marketing tool BYU has

Odysseus

4/17/19 10:09am

The church doesn't run BYU to make money, and they already reject half of those

LilToney

4/17/19 11:33am

Sports are secondary to all academic endeavours at a University. 'Nuff said

Iki_Balam

4/17/19 10:14am

BioSci > Engineering > Business > Sports > ElemEd > Family Living > Humanities

Odysseus

4/17/19 10:24am

found the biologist. biosci being above engineering or business? lol

Dissenter

4/17/19 10:53am

Gotta keep the doctors happy

Odysseus

4/17/19 11:03am

Hmm, I'm not sure this is true and you need to defend that statement..

lilpenny

4/17/19 1:39pm

Agreed. I wouldn't surprise me

CougaRR4L

4/17/19 12:54pm

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