RE: It's clear that he recruits better than Bronco

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Aug 20, 2018
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Kalani: Ride it out.

BeardedCougar

8/20/18 11:35am

So five more years of sub-.500 ball is okay by you? Wow.

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:37am

Comprehension fail

SUAVO

8/20/18 2:27pm

his board name checks out. A wise fan builds his house upon a...

icecougar

8/21/18 3:05am

I think we fail to look at level of opponents Kalani is facing

1984coug

8/20/18 3:08pm

Did you know: Bronco's schedules have been tougher than Kalani's?

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 5:24pm

This is the breakdown

donnerstag

8/20/18 5:31pm

5 of our opponents in 2017 spent time ranked in the CFP that season...

icecougar

8/21/18 3:18am

Didn't lose 9 games because we lost to top 25 teams.

Mr. Scoobs

8/21/18 8:51am

It's clear that he recruits better than Bronco

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:37am

Um, it is?

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:39am

This metric means a lot more than recruiting averages

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:41am

I'd argue the metric is about who performs on the field for BYU. I don't

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:42am

The Sitake recruits are all underclassmen

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:44am

Right. Hope most of them pan out.

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:46am

I disagree. I don't say any clear recruiting advantage. I see his recruiting

Sandy Lyle

8/20/18 12:01pm

Sure. If you ignore all the evidence

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:17pm

All that matters is wins and losses. Bronco at this point is better that way.

dodgersjazzcougs

8/20/18 3:15pm

Yea, but BM didn't have the worst loosing season in modern history. That honor

coolblue

8/20/18 3:20pm

You must have forgotten about 2003

donnerstag

8/20/18 3:25pm

2003 finished #68 compared to #112 last year.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 3:30pm

The distortion of reality about how Bronco is bad & Kalani good is fascinating

runnincoug

8/20/18 12:10pm

I've got to step in here. Bronco recruited really good LBs. His O-Line recruits

FanofBYU

8/20/18 3:01pm

hey, if you don't count Reynolds' boys, you can't count Kalani's "cousins"!

runnincoug

8/21/18 3:20am

He's only had 2 real years to recruit. Early signings would indicate that he

FanofBYU

8/23/18 12:52pm

RE: It's clear that he recruits better than Bronco

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

8/20/18 1:47pm

RE: It's clear that he recruits better than Bronco

Gerald-DeGroot

8/20/18 4:46pm

Taysom Hill and Jamaal Williams - I'll buy that when he can put guys like

MajorPain

8/20/18 5:12pm

You know I sometimes joke about Bronco Derangement Syndrome, but this is the

BeardedSpock

8/20/18 6:19pm

Too objective

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

8/21/18 4:02pm

So what do you base success if not performance/results?

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 11:39am

There are rides at theme parks I refuse to wait in line for.

Bert609

8/20/18 11:39am

Don't forget that he's already had 2.5 years.

BlueBeliever

8/20/18 12:17pm

Kalani has 2 years to fix this. He will get another pass this year from BYU.

WJCougar

8/20/18 11:41am

Remember, mediocre is 8-10 wins, not 4-6 wins.

coolblue

8/20/18 12:29pm

You are in for a lifetime of disappointment. The days of the old WAC...

Samurai Jack

8/20/18 1:26pm

3-5 more years? ha ha

mulletino

8/20/18 11:41am

BYU can go with another untested coordinator

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:47am

Would you not say last year the team was lost?

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 11:50am

The offense was lost

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:52am

The defense was abysmal.

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:58am

The defense was within the range of normal for BYU

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:00pm

Near dead last in pass defense? Nah.

SandYFan

8/20/18 12:38pm

That was par for the course in the old BYU days

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:49pm

Agree with you on this one

8cougar8

8/20/18 8:25pm

Without trying to sound hyperbolic, he may be our last hope.

kolob32

8/20/18 11:42am

This is my point. I think if he's fired our program takes a HUGE stop back.

BeardedCougar

8/20/18 12:09pm

RE: Without trying to sound hyperbolic, he may be our last hope.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/20/18 1:19pm

until we get in a conference and put independence behind us, we are throwing

kolob32

8/20/18 1:26pm

Much of BYU's fanbase has become so delicate.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/20/18 1:30pm

I like to call it realistic

kolob32

8/20/18 1:37pm

uh, if you have the worst year in 40 years and another losing season, you dont get 3-5 more years

Deleted

8/20/18 11:46am

What kind of players will he be able to recruit if BYU tanks again this year.

Brisco

8/20/18 11:47am

Kalani set his own standard. It is now just a touch above the detmer standard

youngbuck

8/20/18 11:53am

Yes, and Kalani should be held to the same standard he set for his coaches.

MajorPain

8/20/18 5:25pm

Almost agree — but don't believe he needs 3-5 MORE years if he fails to hit 6-6

Benfica1

8/20/18 11:56am

It's likely that Crowton would have put it all together in 2006

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:58am

It was possible. But, it was time for a change.

Benfica1

8/20/18 12:03pm

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WhiskeyCoug

8/20/18 12:06pm

Wow - you said "likely" - about a coach that had only one winning

MajorPain

8/20/18 6:01pm

If you saw what the roster looked like in 2002

donnerstag

8/20/18 6:06pm

I agree as long as there is evidence that he’s learning from his mistakes.

Traveshamockery

8/20/18 12:05pm

Don't pay a guy more than $75,000 if he's going to make mistakes and take several years to learn from them.

Brisco

8/20/18 12:15pm

You need to take another look at supply/demand for BYU's HC position

GOR

8/20/18 1:22pm

There already is evidence of that

GOR

8/20/18 1:21pm

RE: Kalani: Ride it out.

WhiskeyCoug

8/20/18 12:07pm

5 wins, replace the defensive staff

whirl

8/20/18 12:10pm

I'm willing to start over today.

coolblue

8/20/18 12:24pm

Really? You don't even want to see how this season goes first?

BlueBeliever

8/20/18 12:28pm

Me too

Coogar2

8/20/18 8:02pm

Boy, the only thing I can agree with here is that I’m not looking forward to searching for another guy.

Refugee

8/20/18 1:12pm

Nope. He gets two more years tops including this season. If he hasn’t turned

mm73

8/20/18 1:26pm

Everyone knows my take on Kalani - he lacks the mental horsepower, discipline,

TeeKaa

8/20/18 1:54pm

Yup. We hired a DC from a 2-10 team. KS was at the very bottom of my wish list.

dYrtbYkerYder

8/20/18 2:08pm

Unfortunately the top and bottom of my realistic wish list aren't very far apart

Gorum the Old

8/20/18 2:53pm

Please. Oregon State was already in the toilet before he got there. They're

FanofBYU

8/20/18 3:02pm

And in just two yrs Kalani took a solid program to the toilet.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 3:57pm

One year is an anomaly. Let’s see what this season brings.

FanofBYU

8/21/18 11:50am

Sounds right

Coogar2

8/20/18 8:03pm

I have a beard

Prickly Heat

8/20/18 2:03pm

Great take. I would give him 2-3 more seasons.

partybog

8/20/18 3:24pm

I actually agree though last year's problems started to free like

CougaRR4L

8/20/18 4:01pm

RE: Kalani: Ride it out.

BuckeyeCougarCrumb

8/20/18 4:14pm

I can go along with 3yrs but not 5

kahuna

8/20/18 4:42pm

I guess I mean 3 from now, 5 total.

BeardedCougar

8/20/18 4:46pm

Agreed

1HotCougar

8/20/18 5:08pm

Scary to see the number of POTD and thumbs up on this. Am I missing some satire

RugbyBYU

8/20/18 5:16pm

Don't think he'll succeed in the long run because of how he conducted himself...

MajorPain

8/20/18 7:00pm

You mean holding Detmer accountable for a terrible offense?

BeardedCougar

8/20/18 7:09pm

Looking forward to Holmoe holding Sitake accountable for a terrible season last

MajorPain

8/20/18 7:45pm

Said every Ty Detmer fan about Ty Detmer

Borg

8/20/18 7:26pm

So you'll call me a "Grimes fan" when I defend him after Kalani throws

MajorPain

8/20/18 10:00pm

I’d give Kalani 3 to 5 games not 3 to 5 seasons

Coogar2

8/20/18 8:01pm

Give Kalani 3-5 MORE years even if he's losing? No way. Zip. Nada. Nyet!

BleedCougarBlue2

8/20/18 8:37pm

I don't think it matters at this point.

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