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Aug 20, 2018
8:40:08am

Backcountry All-American

It's dying. If you don't recognize that I don't k ow what to say. Look around

The world of college football. Look at the trends and the money and the exposure. BYU is being squeezed out of the top level of collegiate athletics and it is getting harder and harder for us to compete. And last year's season has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

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Backcountry

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IF you had a time machine, and could go back in time 10 years, what different choices/decisions made by BYU Athletics

whitey1980 Strong Safety

8/20/18 2:42am

I don't think anyone on here

Spocougar

8/20/18 3:21am

I'm pretty sure that the second "opportunity" to join the Big XII

Spocougar

8/20/18 3:24am

I'm in NO WAY implying that I know anything about BYU's negotiation(s) with the Big XII. I am NOT a sports insider.

whitey1980

8/20/18 3:38am

<< Deleted >>

shakarocks

8/20/18 7:37am

I’d have been more transparent with MWC on leaving for INDY.

SouthernBlueBlood

8/20/18 4:30am

Ignored all emails about Brandon Davies until after the season.

mobomanjoe

8/20/18 4:32am

RE: Ignored all emails about Brandon Davies until after the season.

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 9:22am

So ignore emails or nip in the bud right away? These two

UNHuskerCoug

8/20/18 10:20am

Well they didn't do either, so...

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 12:29pm

Keep Ricks football program going

Hill4Heisman

8/20/18 6:19pm

Keep Anae as OC after 2010.

Y05

8/20/18 5:06am

It was so weird the way that all went down.

Left Shark Coug

8/20/18 6:02am

Set BYU's offensive line back for close to a decade.

ldssdl

8/20/18 6:23am

This. BYU with an established offensive brand in Indy would be a nice change.

CaliWG

8/20/18 9:00am

This was probably the biggest on the field issue for me.

kolob32

8/20/18 9:22am

This this this this this loved that offense.

CougaRR4L

8/20/18 4:05pm

The leadership should have done whatever it took to get into the Big 12 or Pac.

Backcountry

8/20/18 5:13am

Making demands on the B12 was smart... I wonder where these, BYU is hard to

blackshirts

8/20/18 6:03am

This is the correct answer. In 2010, the Big 12 was desperate to expand

ALUF 1990

8/20/18 6:33am

That’s why you don’t alllow people to make decisions based off their status in

Paul Hewson

8/20/18 7:42am

absolutely true.

8/20/18 8:29am

Exactly.

8/20/18 10:54am

PSA: BYU football is not dead. Not all dead or even “mostly dead.”

TayPower

8/20/18 7:58am

We’ve been dead for a while in terms of relevance

franklyvulgar

8/20/18 8:06am

The year with Taysom going undefeated into the UsU

Florwood

8/20/18 8:40am

And how did that season go for us?

Backcountry

8/20/18 8:40am

it was long enough ago. and he was an NFL qb with an NFL rb and a

8/20/18 8:44am

We’re doomed! No. No we’re not.

TayPower

8/20/18 9:36am

Not even that far back. Just go to 2015 when we were ranked #19 going to UCLA

andrewg3

8/21/18 4:12pm

2016?

soupie

8/21/18 5:13pm

Except for BYU's national media coverage being higher than the majority of D1.

Pete Way

8/20/18 5:00pm

byu is a sinking ship. and one of the problems is fans who can't see it.

8/20/18 8:30am

It's dying. If you don't recognize that I don't k ow what to say. Look around

Backcountry

8/20/18 8:40am

I agree with a lot of this. I also think you aren’t giving

TayPower

8/20/18 11:10am

Sure feels like a sinking ship to me...

BYUfan92

8/20/18 8:52am

Losing Bronco

Dr MoBYU

8/20/18 10:22am

Yep. There should have been no negotiation or pushback on anything. Just

macdizzle

8/20/18 10:53am

And how do you know those would have been options?

Mr Blue

8/20/18 11:34am

I basically said that at the time and was called an idiot.

Paco

8/20/18 12:59pm

I think the thing they had the most control over

JuicyJam

8/20/18 6:05am

Not as bad as hiring Kalani

Coogar2

8/20/18 6:09am

Honestly, who else? Realistically with the lack of $, who else would we get?

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 9:28am

Yeah maybe the Kalani hire was bad. But they had 2 or 3 realistic options.

JuicyJam

8/20/18 5:21pm

2 or 3... at the VERY most. Brother Reid isn't (voluntarily) leaving the NFL to coach at BYU.

whitey1980

8/20/18 6:19pm

It's up there

Backcountry

8/20/18 6:30am

Is there any indication as to who wanted Detmer? Was it all Holmoe?

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 9:29am

I would go back further and keep Rondo

shakarocks

8/20/18 7:47am

Or Andy Reid instead of Crowton

mcnasty

8/20/18 5:24pm

Convince Lavell to retire a couple years earlier

KingDave

8/20/18 8:57pm

I've read some good things and here is my list in order:

Benfica1

8/20/18 8:03am

Go back to that one bowl game and take a knee on the first three downs of

8/20/18 8:07am

Fix the honor code. Couldn’t be less Christlike

8/20/18 8:31am

This. Antiquated, anti-hippie policy, double layered, bureaucratic mess.

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 9:32am

Here here

ALC

8/20/18 10:03am

Apply the Honor Code to Spiritual Standing not Academic/Athletic Standing.

CT98

8/20/18 11:55am

I wouldn't have bought season tickets last year.

BrewCoug

8/20/18 8:56am

One thing I would change.

RGreenha

8/20/18 9:12am

Wasn't it the girl who said something?

Jay Rick

8/20/18 2:22pm

Stop losing to Utah

matthodge

8/20/18 9:17am

Bronco giving up DC responsibilities, I think it was a mistake on his part.

kolob32

8/20/18 9:22am

Not popular, but I think independence was a mistake, stay in MWC and work to get

kolob32

8/20/18 9:24am

Hiring Detmer as OC should of never happened.

kolob32

8/20/18 9:25am

A few things:

UCLACoug

8/20/18 9:54am

RE: A few things:

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 10:45am

There are three turning points I see in BYU Football for the worse. They are;

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 10:05am

Along with the handling of Brandon Davies, the handling of Harvey Unga.

partybog

8/20/18 10:07am

Unga faced the same suspension as Jaamal Williams. If Unga would have taken a

CT98

8/20/18 11:50am

#1 Go back 15 years and don’t hire Teflon.

8/20/18 10:52am

Go back further and retain Rondo.

Real Men Wear Blue

8/20/18 11:31am

+1. Rondo was a very progressive AD, one of the best we've had.

cosmohio

8/20/18 2:06pm

#1 Join the Big East with Boise St and SDSU. This would have given us a home

kosmokramer

8/20/18 2:21pm

Bench Riley Nelson when he was injured.

ChurroNieves

8/20/18 3:26pm

The problem is that, with the complete absence of any offensive line at the time

Pete Way

8/20/18 4:54pm

Shoot Urban Meyer and Dr Hill.

BYU Grounds

8/20/18 3:36pm

Start working on going independent earlier. BYU was still too close to getting

Pete Way

8/20/18 4:50pm

A much stronger focus on getting and keeping excellent assistant coaches.

lightmann

8/20/18 5:01pm

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