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Jul 20, 2017
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Brigham
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I am presumptuous.
I think this is what he and his wife wanted. The NBA was a dream, but he knew the odds of that as well as Cougarboarders did.
I think this is what they wanted.
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Mika signs with Pesaro in Italy:
rainorsnow
7/20/17 6:28am
Congratulations Mika!
ChinoCoug
7/20/17 6:29am
So? I don't read "I" talian, or follow euro b ball. How much $ is he making and
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 6:46am
He's in the best league in Italy.
thebruce
7/20/17 7:06am
IIRC they also have a built in room and board as part of the package for all foreign players in most euro pro leagues
JohnnyComeLately
7/20/17 7:19am
Yep. Not to mention he comes from a savvy family when it comes
thebruce
7/20/17 7:22am
I know he comes from wealth,but I was simply asking
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 7:49am
I have a friend I played hockey with from my home reserve.
JohnnyComeLately
7/20/17 8:11am
Mika isnt your friend.He didnt play his ♡ out or he would still be@BYU He''s
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:20am
Not positive I got everything you meant to write but let me answer to the best of my abilities.
JohnnyComeLately
7/20/17 8:37am
Please Dont confuse my lack of desire to congratulate Mika with a desire to wish
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 9:13am
He worst argument on CB is the one where someone says that they haven't seen another post about subject X, thus their
macaroni
7/20/17 8:55am
Statistic improbability to not post on similar topoc.
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 9:15am
He actually is my friend. I've know the family for over 15 years. Bitter much?
BostonCougar
7/20/17 9:15am
B-b-b-ut he didn't get his degree
icecougar
7/20/17 3:15pm
He's a unheralded rookie on a small team in a small town. I doubt he'll make
chilango
7/20/17 7:16am
You need to realize that those numbers factor in all divisions. He's in the top one. Now way he's under 100. That's
macaroni
7/20/17 7:46am
Do you have any data or information to back this up? Or just speculation?
chilango
7/20/17 7:49am
All you have to do is analyze your article. It's not difficult. You did it yourself. The average is 65. There are more
macaroni
7/20/17 7:53am
So not really. Anyway, keep in mind that the euro is also a lot weaker than it
chilango
7/20/17 7:57am
So why not really?
macaroni
7/20/17 8:00am
He's confirming that you have no data or info to back it up
Bgash
7/20/17 8:18am
Not really. Do you?
macaroni
7/20/17 8:25am
He provided 3 different links that are somewhat relevant. Better than nothing.
Bgash
7/20/17 1:40pm
they're blogs without any actual data. it's all opinion.
macaroni
7/20/17 9:00pm
Because you don't really have data to back up your statement. Here is another
chilango
7/20/17 9:10am
Uh...that actually backs me up, not you. And I didn't need to provide any data other than the fact that there are
macaroni
7/20/17 9:48am
It is more of an educated guess than an assumption, but I agree that it isn't a
chilango
7/20/17 9:53am
I didn't? The fact that Italy has many divisions isn't a data point???
macaroni
7/20/17 10:32am
The article states that the best case scenario was $100k in the best leagues for
chilango
7/20/17 10:48am
did you happen to read your own links?
macaroni
7/20/17 8:59pm
43%income tax bracket too plus 1%
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:31am
Where are the divisions listed and ranked? TIA.
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 7:54am
There are a ton
thebruce
7/20/17 8:10am
Italy population is 60 mil that many divisions..the
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:42am
Most leagues do suck.
thebruce
7/20/17 8:45am
What is the tax rate in italy? Cost of living? What is his take home, etc?
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 7:52am
Do you think Eric didn't know all this before deciding to leave BYU?
Brigham
7/20/17 8:21am
I am presumptuous.
Brigham
7/20/17 8:13am
Ha! The cougarboard post is the same length as the linked article.
cujo22
7/20/17 6:46am
Same. I clicked on the link hoping for contract details or a story...nope
2018grad
7/20/17 7:46am
The Plan
Chicago Cougar
7/20/17 7:27am
It's unlikely that he is making that much. Not sure where people are getting the
chilango
7/20/17 7:33am
The average budget for players and coaches per team in his league is about 8 mil
thebruce
7/20/17 7:37am
Read this, and keep in mind that Pesaro is a very small club in a small town,
chilango
7/20/17 7:38am
That average is not equally distributed, and this isn't one of the top teams.
jrob30
7/20/17 7:43am
I know that. The top teams probably have 15 million dollar budgets
thebruce
7/20/17 7:46am
Soccer is much bigger in Italy than basketball, and Italian soccer teams don't
hansel
7/20/17 8:08am
going back to mission country with wife to play hoops and get paid...hmmm...
nashty
7/20/17 7:32am
Are you sure? Starting salaries for rookie basketball players in Italy are
chilango
7/20/17 7:36am
BUT HE'S PLAYING A SPORT... IN ITALY... FOR MONEY!!!
Revolution
7/20/17 7:43am
if i'm 23 and really good at basketball i'll postpone my "business career" a few
nashty
7/20/17 7:44am
That's fine, if he just really wanted to live in Italy, then more power to him.
chilango
7/20/17 7:48am
who's arguing it's some "financial bonanza"? (whatever that is) and great for
nashty
7/20/17 8:00am
Why? If Italy was that great more Americans would move there.
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:13am
He will be. 43%tax bracket plus an additional 1% local rate,so
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:18am
Lol
thebruce
7/20/17 8:22am
i love how CC is now the resident euro CPA. LOL
nashty
7/20/17 8:47am
So what is it then? I can only state what Italy says it is.
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:50am
I have seen a number of people say this on this board over time. A quick search
chilango
7/20/17 8:56am
Are there attorneys who do both deportation defense and H1Bs?
ChinoCoug
7/20/17 7:52am
really smart guys like byutx or carlstud. i'm a solo shop that just does family
nashty
7/20/17 7:58am
you were a business major and you don't do business-related stuff?
ChinoCoug
7/20/17 11:58am
i'm confused...do you legitimately think that the marriott school teaches about
nashty
7/20/17 1:55pm
Yeah,but also.not really congratulations worthy...
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:10am
so you are like the congratulations police? If the neighbor kid lands
cwilke1
7/20/17 8:37am
The salaries aren't as bad as you think. Serie A
thebruce
7/20/17 7:45am
That's cool,but do you know the tax rate?
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 7:56am
In many instances it's 0% for players. Just depends.
thebruce
7/20/17 8:04am
Just read it's not He''s taxed on all $ made in Italy anything over 65€ = 43%
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:37am
Where did you read that?
thebruce
7/20/17 8:38am
BTW the reason it's typically tax free is because during contract negotiations
thebruce
7/20/17 8:43am
So it's not really tax free they just negotiate
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:53am
The salary is tax free. But obviously the team
thebruce
7/20/17 8:59am
Google looked up income tax rate for italy..
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 8:48am
Dude. You don't understand how this works.
thebruce
7/20/17 8:55am
If that's how it works cool..so Do you know of any employers
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 1:54pm
I don't think it works this way either. The team pays his Italian taxes on his
chilango
7/20/17 2:11pm
There is a lot of information online you can read
thebruce
7/20/17 6:04pm
When I lived overseas, I technically paid zero taxes in the various countries I
chilango
7/20/17 8:51pm
Dude, they are paying close to zero in taxes.
thebruce
7/20/17 8:53pm
I have, and I actually lived overseas several times with my employer paying my
chilango
7/20/17 9:10pm
Ok this isn't getting anywhere and it doesn't really matter.
thebruce
7/20/17 9:22pm
your own link said that the taxes are paid for.
macaroni
7/20/17 9:25pm
Sure, like my taxes were paid for in China, by my employer. Doesn't mean I
chilango
7/24/17 9:59pm
Do you want to discuss heaps/Nelson too?
thebruce
7/24/17 10:05pm
I guarantee he is making more doing this than had he graduated from BYU
Dissenter
7/20/17 8:01am
What do you base this on? I recruit for my company at BYU, and we offer new
chilango
7/20/17 9:00am
How long is your season?
jvquarterback
7/20/17 9:25am
Recruiting season kicks off in September, and we usually wrap up in early Dec.
chilango
7/20/17 10:51am
Do you think Eric knew that when he decided to leave BYU?
Brigham
7/20/17 8:24am
I think he had unrealistic expectations about his ability to make an NBA roster.
chilango
7/20/17 8:58am
What I don't get is why not play another year or 2 at BYU? Italy would still be
rggee
7/20/17 7:59am
who said waiting 2 years increases his NBA stock? i don't think that's true at
nashty
7/20/17 8:02am
Who said it wouldn't?
rggee
7/20/17 8:03am
me...for one. i'm sure many others told mika the same thing
nashty
7/20/17 8:10am
Very surprised someone of your basketball intelligence
gurt
7/20/17 8:23am
mika, surprisingly, peaked in year 1 after his mission. he knew it. he moved
nashty
7/20/17 8:54am
I'd love to see these mountains of data
Playoff
7/20/17 9:19am
this is SOOOO easy...look at ANY draft in the last 10 years and tell me how many
nashty
7/20/17 1:58pm
Yes exactly, they are talking about that
gurt
7/20/17 2:42pm
that's what NCAA says. that doesn't mean NBA GM's are gonna actually pick kids
nashty
7/20/17 4:35pm
Yes... but. That's not what the convo Is about
gurt
7/20/17 4:41pm
there are also many examples
lukeskywalker
7/20/17 9:51am
who said it was "always" a benefit? or that it was without risk? no one is
nashty
7/20/17 1:59pm
conventional wisdom for early entrants to NBA draft:
lukeskywalker
7/20/17 2:54pm
This is correct. Just must not have been a basketball decision
archie
7/20/17 2:58pm
Very well said
gurt
7/20/17 4:45pm
His stock is essentially 0
archie
7/20/17 8:37am
The Jazz just signed 2 guys from the Euro leagues.
cwilke1
7/20/17 8:40am
yeah...NBA teams never sign players from europe! much better chances in the NBA
nashty
7/20/17 8:49am
fixed*
archie
7/20/17 9:00am
Maybe because he and his wife want the experience now
kccougar
7/20/17 8:11am
Uhh... congratulations ... I guess ?
gurt
7/20/17 8:04am
I love how people here are making decision for him. Goodness gracious.
ChinoCoug
7/20/17 8:17am
Who is making decisions for him? I just don't undersrand
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 9:02am
Bunch of fat, middle aged "BYU fans" can't be happy for a former player
fredetteaboutit13
7/20/17 8:38am
Heyyy... I'm not fat!
gurt
7/20/17 8:41am
Sorry I should have said besides gurt. I've seen you on tv!
fredetteaboutit13
7/20/17 8:44am
Ok ok.. I could probably lose 10
gurt
7/20/17 8:47am
That's not his dream. His dream was nba..So let's start there.
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 9:00am
He's getting paid to play basketball. Yes that's a dream.
Machiavelli
7/20/17 9:17am
No you aren't paying sttention I don't care that he left I just don't understand
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 2:30pm
And....nor am I sad for him. I just don't freaking care.
idacoug
7/20/17 10:39am
I seriously can't stand the negativity on CB surrounding Mika.
Machiavelli
7/20/17 9:14am
I don't think it's negativity
Playoff
7/20/17 9:22am
Honestly his motives don't even matter that much.
Machiavelli
7/20/17 9:27am
exactly...most are blinded by their BYU fandom. leave the kid alone
nashty
7/20/17 2:02pm
Amen.
Bgash
7/20/17 1:52pm
it's seriously weird...very, very weird.
nashty
7/20/17 2:01pm
Honestly this is the best thing that could have happened for BYU
archie
7/20/17 10:00am
I also hope recruits distance themselves from fansites like this.
cwilke1
7/20/17 10:23am
^^^ glass is half full sort of CB'r
lightmann
7/20/17 11:25am
WPOTD
Dissenter
7/20/17 11:53am
I have kids your age, and if they wanted to do what you just said you would do,
chilango
7/20/17 12:32pm
I would probably finish one semester. But two years to put off making bank? idk
Dissenter
7/20/17 3:16pm
White Punks On Dope?
archie
7/20/17 2:51pm
lol, forgot the T in POTD
Dissenter
7/20/17 3:16pm
And then point to Jimmer to see the benefits of staying
BYU '80
7/20/17 12:23pm
I hope he does well, still wish he was a Cougar though. His choice, so best of luck.
lightmann
7/20/17 10:56am
AMEN!
CarolinaCoug
7/20/17 2:32pm
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