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Mar 28, 2017
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garyfan
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I read it as her saying that people in Utah can have an open and productive
dialogue about helping the poor because the race card is essentially off the table.
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Outside my BYU sojourn, I don't plan on living in Utah again, but this article
veddarhall
3/28/17 8:54am
Never thought I would either but here we are right smack in the middle of Utah Co. Never know.
soupie
3/28/17 9:13am
Same with us. Almost 21 years now, never thought it would happen...
Florwood
3/28/17 9:27am
I never thought I would either, and so far, so good.
chilango
3/28/17 9:40am
Great article, thanks for sharing.
ForzaPuma
3/28/17 9:19am
Utah is extremely hard to get proper compensation for Medical professionals
byu1
3/28/17 9:49am
I value your work at about a nickel. So feel free to stay away.
Sid Vicious
3/28/17 9:54am
Define "proper compensation". Most would say it is what the market says it is.
Turnpike Lane
3/28/17 9:59am
I didn't say there is no way to do very well there, but as a whole, certain
byu1
3/28/17 10:13am
Doctors in Utah do just fine
wapiti
3/29/17 9:36am
Agreed. Each time we make a concerted effort to return to Utah...
Tokolosh
3/28/17 10:57am
Have you considered trying essential oils?
CarolinaCoug
3/28/17 11:21am
Great article and love the way the author looks at the necessary aspect more objectively w/o the stereotypes.
soupie
3/28/17 9:54am
Also in Utah, upper class seem to still send their kids to public school.
rcbyufan
3/28/17 10:13am
That's a very good point. I grew up in the Boise area (so not Utah) but the same was true there.
soupie
3/28/17 10:15am
Cultural homogeneity and, yes, race, have a lot to do with that
hansel
3/28/17 11:08am
Could it be considered narrow-minded to think racial lines are the same as economic lines? I did a
soupie
3/28/17 11:22am
Fair point. Nonetheless, lower class kids get to interact with and model upper
rcbyufan
3/28/17 11:41am
Agreed
hansel
3/28/17 11:56am
I am actually surprised that the article was so fair to the Church, impressive
byu1
3/28/17 10:14am
good except it says upward mobility is because of racism and lack o black people
buckeyecougarguy
3/28/17 11:54am
I read it as her saying that people in Utah can have an open and productive
garyfan
3/28/17 8:58pm
and the race card is off the table because...
buckeyecougarguy
3/29/17 9:54am
You didnt read it, you skimmed it. It said other factors were more important
BostonCougar
3/28/17 8:59pm
must have because i dont remember it saying that. It mentioned several other
buckeyecougarguy
3/29/17 9:58am
Worth reading! A lot of the comments are positive as well
maxlds
3/28/17 12:32pm
things like this are what make cougarboard great. thx Veddarhall
rotorhead
3/28/17 5:59pm
She lost me when her liberal chant about "the church’s racist past" came out.
ugo1st
3/28/17 11:50pm
Racism card is way overused in society but the church ban was textbook racism
rcbyufan
3/29/17 7:38am
Exactly. The policy was explicitly racist. You can debate whether it was right
chilango
3/29/17 8:01am
meh. better to acknowledge it and move on. Members and non-members have
MormonThug
3/29/17 7:45am
Just as there were racist mistakes in the US generally.
soupie
3/29/17 8:05am
I don't think anyone debates that the US in general had major issues with racism
chilango
3/29/17 8:23am
Certainly true. We can't pretend it's stopped both in and out of this church on a less official basis however.
soupie
3/29/17 9:20am
Agree. The absence of formal policies doesn't mean that there wasn't/isn't very
chilango
3/29/17 9:41am
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