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Mar 21, 2017
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Busiturtle
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My guess is old employees cost companies higher insurance rates
And the.company may figure it can get a similar employee at a lower salary. IOW, it's not personal, it's business.
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Thoughts about my father-in-law's work situation right now.
jdub
All-American
3/21/17 1:38pm
He should keep a log of everything in preparation for a potential ageism lawsuit
OneUpper
3/21/17 1:39pm
Or quit being selfish and retire. The company doesn't want to pay an old guy a bunch of money when they could get
Thunder Buddy
3/21/17 1:41pm
Who's being selfish, the FIL or the company? Age is going to give you a
rmsenior
3/21/17 1:59pm
Agreed. If these kids knew half of what they think they know...
OneUpper
3/21/17 2:00pm
I think TB was being TIC. But, if it wasn't, my FIL knows the current project better than anybody
jdub
3/21/17 2:04pm
The old guy is being selfish, imo. He knows they want him to retire, but he refuses and from the sounds of it
Thunder Buddy
3/21/17 2:07pm
Why should he quit if he enjoys the work, is capable and competent and knows the
rmsenior
3/21/17 2:15pm
Ah, so I gave you the benefit of a doubt that I shouldn't have.
jdub
3/21/17 2:21pm
But I don't think you know the exact reasons the employers want to go
Cougarfan777
3/21/17 2:24pm
No, I don't know their reasoning. And I certainly am painting this from my FILs perspective
jdub
3/21/17 2:35pm
This is why at 65 the employee needs to be proactive in his or her discussions
Cougarfan777
3/21/17 2:47pm
Maybe they HAVE found something slipping. But the recent good reviews argue otherwise.
jdub
3/21/17 3:02pm
My guess is old employees cost companies higher insurance rates
Busiturtle
3/21/17 3:28pm
That's part of it, I'm sure. But, again, it's not professional behavior to try to get a guy to quit
jdub
3/21/17 4:10pm
So going to work and earning your pay is taking advantage of the system?
calcio
3/21/17 2:36pm
Yep, that's what he said. How selfish can you be, thinking you should be paid for your time and experience.
jdub
3/21/17 2:41pm
I've obviously stuck a cord and I apologize. My point is that it sounds like they are ready to part ways, he knows it,
Thunder Buddy
3/21/17 2:46pm
yeah, because your point is ridiculous. good grief. he's not causing problems.
Kerbouchard
3/21/17 3:07pm
Your assumptions are ludicrous
CougarThug
3/21/17 3:27pm
Sounds like he is doing what makes him happy....his job.
CougsBeatU
3/21/17 4:02pm
yeah, so selfish fir him to want his house paid off before he retires. Where do
Kerbouchard
3/21/17 3:03pm
I hate to be the "fatherly" type, but you ought to consider the role of Karma
Division Bell
3/21/17 3:36pm
Document everything as it happens. Freelance to get his home paid off sooner.
My Soapbox
3/21/17 1:41pm
He should document the crap out of everything he does. This includes:
PhilPete
3/21/17 1:44pm
He should start looking elsewhere. It will likely only get worse from here on out.
NottherealJWill
3/21/17 1:58pm
Getting a new programming job as 65 year old is kind of tough to do.
jdub
3/21/17 2:05pm
Good point. Getting anything decent at 65
bluegato
3/21/17 3:17pm
What can he do? He doesn't own the company. They want to move on..
Cougarfan777
3/21/17 2:18pm
The point, however, is that their methods are not the way to do this. You don't make work a nightmare
jdub
3/21/17 2:39pm
he could ask for a buy out
Nat Gas Man
3/21/17 2:20pm
This is what I was thinking. Time for a golden handshake.
holipuluki
3/21/17 2:27pm
Reported.
Thunder Buddy
3/21/17 2:30pm
It's not uncommon for a manager to ask a question about retirement plans
Hang10
3/21/17 2:37pm
Mainframe/COBOL programmer? If so he should head out on the open market.
Cachanilla83
3/21/17 2:38pm
If he's been there 20 years and is as good as you say he is...
truecoug1
3/21/17 2:43pm
It's not a huge office. Yes, he SHOULD have respect for his work history, and the reviews are proof that he DID
jdub
3/21/17 2:52pm
At 65 with 20 yrs with the company doesn't he qualify to retire with some sort
Y_99
3/21/17 2:55pm
This isn't a government job. I don't know where you work, but most companies I know of don't have pensions
jdub
3/21/17 3:01pm
If I only understood this back when starting my career, I would have been
LV Mike
3/21/17 5:11pm
you mean a pension? haha, that's a good one!
Kerbouchard
3/21/17 3:09pm
That further proves my point. His boss is the owner?
truecoug1
3/21/17 3:09pm
Even if they have to fire him the employee can come up with all kinds of
Cougarfan777
3/21/17 4:48pm
If he's in Utah, it's a no-cause state. You can fire with no cause
truecoug1
3/21/17 5:04pm
I'm the same age and want to work longer. My employer seems good with it.
Florwood
3/21/17 3:06pm
When does he qualify for full SS? I assume at 65....he could then do freelance
Nat Gas Man
3/21/17 3:08pm
I think it is now 67.
jdub
3/21/17 3:21pm
not for someone that was born in 1954 or before
Nat Gas Man
3/21/17 3:58pm
Full social doesn't kick in now until 66.
bluegato
3/23/17 12:49pm
He should ask them why they are making things miserable for him.
NJBYUFan
3/21/17 4:13pm
I had similar issue though she wasn't part of it, least as far as I know of.
NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN
6/1/17 2:29am
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