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Feb 27, 2017
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Fdnman
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I think he was referring to me saying I was a counselor and not the Bishop
unless I misunderstood as well.
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Struggling with Scouting
CougarinOZ
2/27/17 9:08am
Once a month camp out is excessive.
IGlowInTheDark
2/27/17 9:10am
Tough to get the 20 campouts in before the scouts get into high school if you
Fdnman
2/27/17 9:12am
Hold some in someone's backyard. Seriously. The leaders can all go home to sleep
jholling
2/27/17 9:16am
As a former district commissioner my $0.02 is 80% of the issue is the lack of
Nat Gas Man
2/27/17 9:42am
However it's done, monthly is excessive.
IGlowInTheDark
2/27/17 10:22am
traingings, campouts, high adventures, all day Philmont.
smokymountainrain
2/27/17 9:10am
As a member of the Bishopric, I would appreciate it if a leader came and
Fdnman
2/27/17 9:11am
okay, so not really trying to be mean here, but your promptings as it relates
smokymountainrain
2/27/17 9:18am
Can you clarify? Are you saying OP's promptings don't matter or a Counselor's?
Tokolosh
2/27/17 9:21am
the person i was replying to - the counselor.
smokymountainrain
2/27/17 9:28am
As the COR, it is actually my responsibility. But thanks for playing.
Fdnman
2/27/17 9:22am
it is your responibility to communicate with the bishop, so he can make
smokymountainrain
2/27/17 9:29am
Ultimately the Bishop does have final say but he can also delegate authority
Tokolosh
2/27/17 9:35am
of course counselors receive and act on promptings. we all do. but as it
smokymountainrain
2/27/17 9:40am
He actually can have that stewardship if it has been given to him.
Tokolosh
2/27/17 9:50am
Both he and we know he is nitpicking over nothing for whatever reason...
Fdnman
2/27/17 9:54am
He didn't say he would tell him no
Sea Chicken
2/27/17 9:52am
no message
OneUpper
2/27/17 9:23am
I think he was referring to me saying I was a counselor and not the Bishop
Fdnman
2/27/17 9:24am
Ah. Yes. I misunderstood then.
OneUpper
2/27/17 9:24am
say no
Cougarealist
2/27/17 9:12am
My biggest hang up these days is the nickel and dime cost of everything
Tokolosh
2/27/17 9:12am
it has always been that way, today it is just $10 here and $50 there
Nat Gas Man
2/27/17 9:20am
I still think this is the biggest reason the church will drop scouting
mudpupper
2/27/17 9:22am
Since when has ward budgeting ever been fair? Take a look at the RS vs EQ
supertux
2/27/17 9:27am
amen, the RS to EQ and HP budget in our ward is 10:1
sTcCoug
2/27/17 9:49am
R.S. = half the ward budget... EQ and HP... $0. I never quite understood the
Fdnman
2/27/17 9:50am
What I don't like is the YM budget is much larger and the individual costs are
mudpupper
2/27/17 10:06am
More often in the wards I have been in, the budgets are the same and the
Fdnman
2/27/17 10:10am
The budgets may look the same, but not after you factor in chartering costs
fredgarvin
2/27/17 11:37am
1--Can you take any of your kids with you? I took my young sons with me
Skeeziks
2/27/17 9:13am
I think if he already feels inadequate, it's not going to help to have one of
supertux
2/27/17 9:16am
Plus it is against church rules to bring your non-scout age kids.
mudpupper
2/27/17 9:24am
It is??? Oops...
Skeeziks
2/27/17 9:25am
I swear I've seen that in a handbook or somewhere before.
mudpupper
2/27/17 9:26am
Are you the scoutmaster or in another position? Do you have two additional dependable adult leaders (or Dads)?
kccougar
2/27/17 9:14am
Get out. Nothing to be ashamed of. Lots of guys (like me) really love Scouting
PGVikingDad
2/27/17 9:16am
To me, this is one of the biggest issues with the scout program in the church
marticorp
2/27/17 12:45pm
You should let the Bishopric know
8-track
2/27/17 9:17am
I don't do scouting anymore....have no use for it and it probably reflected on
Nat Gas Man
2/27/17 9:19am
IMO, there's rarely a good reason to get home from a campout later than 1pm
garyfan
2/27/17 9:20am
We usually get home in the morning but I still have a few hours of clean up
mudpupper
2/27/17 9:26am
My advice......
mudpupper
2/27/17 9:21am
The kids are more important than the program
Remigius
2/27/17 9:26am
Where you are in life makes a huge difference
korihor
2/27/17 9:32am
Thank you
CougarinOZ
2/27/17 9:37am
I think the short answer in your case is "no" you don't need to have that desire
supertux
2/27/17 9:42am
Don't compare yourself to the uber scouts in the ward.
mudpupper
2/27/17 10:12am
Appreciate your willingness to serve. I would have been glad for my boys
Agaricus
2/27/17 10:25am
All of the red tape, training, bureaucracy, and indifferent parents take a
Jeff Spicoli
2/27/17 9:39am
Yea, let the bishopric know your concerns - if you've been in the calling
OGSuperfan
2/27/17 9:43am
I just got called to Scout Exec COmmittee.
Cougarclaw
2/27/17 9:45am
I'm a recently called Scout Committee Chair....
beatnik
2/27/17 9:54am
That seriously need to go away
Nat Gas Man
2/27/17 9:54am
Man, this thread has been therapy for me. Just got realeased from EYO SL and
BlooGeek
2/27/17 12:16pm
EYO Leader is a critical position. If the boys don't get close to First Class by
Fdnman
2/27/17 12:38pm
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