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Helm Hammerhand

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The idea that a 14-year NFL QB isn't qualified to be a D-1 OC is nuts.

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 7:14am

Why?

srey

12/18/15 7:15am

Especially when stated by those who complain that he's only a HS head coach

LV Mike

12/18/15 7:16am

Why? I can't think of one successful OC who was a 14 yr NFL QB.

Blueto

12/18/15 7:17am

How about a 14-yr NFL QB who spent 2 yrs as an NFL QB coach before being HC?

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 7:26am

We could go with Elder Gifford Nielsen

HangookCoug

12/18/15 7:24am

OC because of his playing career is nuts. I would love to take the risk and

AzCoug1

12/18/15 7:27am

Some are, some aren't. Gretzky coached a bad org. but won a gold medal as coach

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 7:38am

I do not subscribe to the theory that Detmer would succeed as an OC without

srey

12/18/15 7:40am

No.... No it's really not

Hoax

12/18/15 7:37am

I'll side Lavell on this one.

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 7:39am

Link?

srey

12/18/15 7:41am

Heard Lavell say it on 1280 last week.

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 8:00am

Say what? That BYU would be nuts not to hire Detmer as the OC?

srey

12/18/15 8:01am

Ty would be a fantastic OC for BYU. Not ready for HC, but would be a great OC.

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 10:55am

I'll have to look that up. Sounds incorrect.

srey

12/18/15 11:03am

Playing and coaching are completely different skills

Left Shark Coug

12/18/15 7:44am

Son of TX HS Coaching legend, Student of game, 14 year NFL, Heisman, Successful

Saxa

12/18/15 7:52am

Still not convinced. He's a great candidate for a QB coaching position with us.

srey

12/18/15 7:55am

I'd take the risk at OC based on his body of work. That's all I'm saying

Saxa

12/18/15 7:56am

His body of work does not include any experience in college coaching.

srey

12/18/15 7:59am

I would liken it more with taking a successful president of a small business

Saxa

12/18/15 8:10am

I can agree with that. I think Ty could be great, but I am also risk averse.

srey

12/18/15 8:13am

Absolutely understand

Saxa

12/18/15 9:57am

QB coach for Ty is totally insulting.

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 8:01am

Why?

srey

12/18/15 8:02am

He's more overqualified to be QB coach than Mitt is to be President of the USA.

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 8:06am

He's overqualified for a position that is 3 steps above the highest coaching job

srey

12/18/15 8:08am

He's way overqualified to be a BYU QB coach. NFL QB coach, fine.

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 8:29am

In what ways? Please don't take this as a criticism. It is more of a critique.

srey

12/18/15 8:36am

I'm sure you know my arguments and just reach a different conclusion

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 10:25am

How many 22 year old qb coaches are there? Very very few.

srey

12/18/15 10:34am

Well they don't stay 22 for more than a year but many start very young (24, 25)

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 10:54am

Slow clap. You got me...

srey

12/18/15 10:57am

Your posts on this topic remind me of some of these.

srey

12/18/15 11:02am

To be clear, he may be a terrible OC. Who knows?

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 11:30am

Yes, you provided all the detail I should have included

VenetianCougar

12/18/15 8:02am

I agree

Helm Hammerhand

12/18/15 7:52am

Wrong. That is a good start, but a lot more is required. My guess is Ty is

Y'zFan

12/18/15 8:10am

IMO, being a 14-year NFL QB doesn't necessarily qualify one to be a D1 OC

CopperLix

12/18/15 8:10am

But can he transfer that knowledge to 18-24 year old kids at every position?

srey

12/18/15 8:16am

Let's find out

Helm Hammerhand

12/18/15 8:19am

It's an intriguing proposition, but if we are hiring Sitake I think that hiring

srey

12/18/15 8:25am

I would feel more comfortable starting him as qb coach, but I still believe he

Helm Hammerhand

12/18/15 8:47am

Equating playing experience to coaching experience is what is really nuts.

shimmy

12/18/15 8:20am

Yea, but how much experience has he had on CougarBoard where true expertise is

cal

12/18/15 8:26am

Nice avatar

srey

12/18/15 8:26am

wow I've met my doppelganger

cal

12/18/15 8:35am

coaching is different than playing. how many of the "greats" are even successful coaches?

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