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Jul 31, 2015
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SouthernAZcoug
Perhaps, but it was never a long term solution with a diminishing rate of return
I think we are past the half-way point, perhaps far past, where independence can positive growth for BYU football.
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If we're looked at as P5 by everyone except the BigXII then what's the big deal
byukarl
7/31/15 3:15pm
It's the fear of conference consolidation and BYU being left out in the future.
titlecoug
7/31/15 3:16pm
^AND THIS
ColonelMustard7
7/31/15 3:31pm
cause independence is lackluster and I want more for our bball team. I really
budYu
7/31/15 3:17pm
what are you willing to sacrifice?
warp
7/31/15 5:13pm
I understand that might be a roadblock for all of our sports but I am hoping
budYu
7/31/15 8:56pm
💸💸💸
YIsForBrigham
7/31/15 3:18pm
Well, let's see, there is the $ thing and then there is the weak home schedule.
tisdaplace
7/31/15 3:19pm
Counting towards a scheduling requirement is not the same as...
Cougar Insider
7/31/15 3:20pm
^THIS
ColonelMustard7
7/31/15 3:21pm
BYU should be able to challenge that access in court, now. Every conference sees
PGVikingDad
7/31/15 3:27pm
You realize they can just as easily say, "BYU does not count towards...
Cougar Insider
7/31/15 3:32pm
If there is another shake-up and we're left out in the cold, I'd be shocked if
PGVikingDad
7/31/15 3:59pm
Let's hope we just get in and don't have to find out.
Cougar Insider
7/31/15 4:04pm
The power conferences don't see us as equals.
Everymancoug
7/31/15 3:48pm
U realize that BYU and ND have virtually the same access right?
LEDSFW
7/31/15 8:14pm
No ite. ND has a contract with the Orange bowl that allows them
Everymancoug
8/1/15 9:56am
With the advent of the college playoff
travelcoug
8/1/15 10:05am
also because when in a conference you are guaranteed those good bowls if
ColonelMustard7
7/31/15 3:20pm
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Buffalo
7/31/15 3:23pm
yeah, they will schedule us...AT THEIR stadiums or 2 for 1's, plus we still do
Kerbouchard
7/31/15 3:25pm
Some valid reasons...but you think BYU would make the playoff if they have
Lance71
7/31/15 3:28pm
Wrong. Win the big12 championship with 1 loss and we are probably in. If the
YIsForBrigham
7/31/15 3:30pm
Yeah, ask TCU and Baylor about that.
Lance71
7/31/15 3:33pm
"Win the championship". TCU and Baylor didnt win a championship
YIsForBrigham
7/31/15 3:39pm
It's semantics. But, the BIG12 claims they both did win a BIG12 championship.
Lance71
7/31/15 3:47pm
But that championship didn't come through a 13th game.
Cougar Insider
7/31/15 3:54pm
Exactly and it's their fault for taking the easy road and getting left out.
scott715
7/31/15 7:51pm
Disagree completely. Even with 1 loss, in the BIG12 BYU could win the
Kerbouchard
7/31/15 3:42pm
Didn't 3 of the 4 playoff teams last year have one loss?
Cougar Insider
7/31/15 3:46pm
I just don't see a lot of these 2 for 1's I hear about
travelcoug
7/31/15 3:30pm
Holmoe and Bronco mention them all the time. You don't see them
Kerbouchard
7/31/15 3:43pm
wisconsin. Norte dame USC. That all I see
travelcoug
7/31/15 4:04pm
What is your point?
Kerbouchard
7/31/15 5:48pm
There are over 30 P5 schools we have agreements with. They are not 2-1
travelcoug
7/31/15 6:33pm
We still have 6-9 G5 opponents per year. That's a problem.
LiveCoug
7/31/15 3:26pm
The P5 games mostly have been good games and several G5 are top notch.
scott715
7/31/15 7:54pm
Bowl games, schedule, money, rivalries...pretty much several of the top things
UNLVcougar
7/31/15 3:26pm
Interesting home games. Especially in November.
Daedalus17
7/31/15 3:29pm
Several Reasons
thenewguy
7/31/15 3:34pm
When did the Big12 ever say we aren't p5 caliber?
Bostonblue
7/31/15 3:38pm
I think he meant Big 10?
kC Cougar
7/31/15 3:53pm
I think he just means the b12 hasn't officially said anything. But neither has
YIsForBrigham
7/31/15 3:59pm
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
PAman
7/31/15 3:40pm
Here is what we get by being P5 conf members rather than P5 recognized Indy:
Harrison0Yfan
7/31/15 3:54pm
Spot on. 100% agree.
BYUHgrad
7/31/15 5:29pm
^^^Yep.
byujdmba
7/31/15 6:29pm
The real issue is how BYU is viewed by the playoff selection committee
reddead
7/31/15 4:04pm
And, how often will BYU EVER be in the CFP discussion - conference or not?
boscatar
7/31/15 4:24pm
every time we are undefeated
travelcoug
7/31/15 4:31pm
I agree with points 1 and 2
reddead
7/31/15 5:36pm
We will never get into an NY6 bowl having more than one loss...
SouthernAZcoug
7/31/15 4:15pm
What a poor perspective.
Gentleman Stan
7/31/15 4:25pm
Perhaps, but it was never a long term solution with a diminishing rate of return
SouthernAZcoug
7/31/15 4:30pm
So, the first few years of Independence, without P5 recognition
Gentleman Stan
7/31/15 4:36pm
Those conferences are saying that BYU meets a minimum scheduling criteria
SouthernAZcoug
7/31/15 5:04pm
so so so so wrong. I don't even know where to start.
Bostonblue
7/31/15 5:07pm
Ugh. No, and your post doesn't make sense.
Gentleman Stan
7/31/15 5:13pm
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