The problem is he uses the "5th" as an excuse for mediocre seasons.

Jun 23, 2015
4:40:13pm

Cougarfan777

He never needed to say it in the first place. Or bring it up in the future.

Just go out and try really hard to win games. And when you fall short, don't make excuses. Oh, and beat Utah once every couple years.

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For better or worse... The current state of BYU football is a direct result

Zach Morris

6/23/15 11:20am

I think it's more a result of Utah to the P12. BYU used to be THE school for in

Blueto

6/23/15 11:27am

Nah. I don't buy that. Washington State and Oregon State are P5, and we've

Gentleman Stan

6/23/15 4:51pm

How does Utah being in the PAC 12 effect BYU? I can't agree with this. Utah

QBfactoryclosed

6/23/15 4:57pm

The Yewts were getting the best of us before they went P5.

Real Men Wear Blue

6/23/15 10:06pm

I don't agree with this

Sea Chicken

6/23/15 11:28am

His record when favored to win begs to differ.

Zach Morris

6/23/15 11:32am

Really ? What is that and how does it compare to peer coaches ?

ManicBlue

6/23/15 11:34am

Let me text Kyle Whittingham real quick and I'll get back to you.

Zach Morris

6/23/15 11:38am

Who are his peers?

MarylandFan

6/23/15 1:14pm

RE: Who are his peers?

ManicBlue

6/23/15 1:36pm

A valid point

MarylandFan

6/23/15 2:55pm

RE: A valid point

ManicBlue

6/23/15 3:00pm

Please explain???

AzCoug1

6/23/15 12:53pm

Records when favored

Blue Cat

6/23/15 2:22pm

Oops....

PolarisPrime

6/23/15 4:29pm

Where does Urban Meyer say he ranks football?

Belboz

6/23/15 3:14pm

Perfect example. As for me, I prefer a coach that cares about the players.

Almaden Cougar

6/23/15 4:46pm

I've wondered if that's why Urban Meyer has struggled since taking the OSU job

Belboz

6/23/15 8:38pm

Not sure if that's TIC. His record at Ohio State is

Almaden Cougar

6/24/15 8:36am

you're not sure if that's TIC. That's a sign that we're done.

Belboz

6/24/15 1:50pm

I agree with you. Which leads us to ask the question, 'why is BYU football in

QBfactoryclosed

6/23/15 5:21pm

So are you saying BYU needs to lower their standards in order to win more games?

HasRo24

6/23/15 11:28am

I'm saying Bronco has been very vocal that "Football is 5th"

Zach Morris

6/23/15 11:30am

I agree with that but you can't possibly believe that Bronco loses games

HasRo24

6/23/15 11:36am

Very vocal? I've seen Bronco reference it a couple of times in 10

300BLK

6/23/15 12:44pm

Very vocal ? When is the last time Bronco said that ? link ?

ManicBlue

6/23/15 1:37pm

that's silly. Winning and attaining excellence aren't exclusive of each other...

icecougar

6/23/15 3:38pm

Yep, it's the middle of summer alright.

Left Shark Coug

6/23/15 11:33am

This is so tired, I have to figure you are trolling. Athletes are quoted all the

jbonita

6/23/15 11:38am

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SUAVO

6/23/15 2:14pm

so tell us. What should football replace on the priority list?

hxmCougar2000

6/23/15 11:53am

The current state of BYU football is a direct result of

StalwartBraveTrue

6/23/15 12:20pm

Disagree 90% on that - a result of college football superconferences, UU getting

BYUfan92

6/23/15 1:05pm

Football was 5th in 2006 and 2007. Keep looking...

AzCoug1

6/23/15 1:30pm

Nah. It's more the result of larger shifts in the college football landscape.

BearsandBulls

6/23/15 1:49pm

Which of the items on the list should football be above? God? Family? School?

Bostonblue

6/23/15 2:36pm

Obviously, when faced with a decision between football practice and attending

SUAVO

6/23/15 2:43pm

"Football is 5th" is propaganda he borrowed from John Wooden..

Anae4Anae

6/23/15 3:03pm

Yeah but Wooden sucked as a coach

ManicBlue

6/23/15 3:20pm

Are you comparing Wooden to Bronco?

CougDogg-e-Dogg

6/23/15 3:22pm

RE: Are you comparing Wooden to Bronco?

ManicBlue

6/23/15 3:26pm

The current state of BYU football is a direct result of:

frontrowcougar

6/23/15 3:18pm

I'd bet that if BYU were in KC they would be in the B12 by now.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/23/15 3:54pm

If we were in the East we'd at least have multiple possible suitors

frontrowcougar

6/23/15 4:06pm

Meh. He's just stating what we all know to be true anyways. In the end, football

SouthernCoug

6/23/15 3:30pm

Agreed. But it's a Church school, and won't forsake principles for success on

BabyOx

6/23/15 4:02pm

so your list would go: 1. Honor code; 2. Football, 3. God, 4. Family 5. School.

Bostonblue

6/23/15 4:14pm

How on earth do you think firesides detract from the game?

PolarisPrime

6/23/15 4:33pm

when I leave a very spiritually powerful testimony meeting, the last thing...

icecougar

6/23/15 6:28pm

they could just as easily hold the fireside later that evening after the game

icecougar

6/23/15 7:20pm

The problem is he uses the "5th" as an excuse for mediocre seasons.

Cougarfan777

6/23/15 4:40pm

This is completely incorrect!

52Cougar

6/23/15 5:16pm

Oh yeah? Tell me

Zach Morris

6/23/15 5:22pm

You might want to read quotes of legendary coaches in both football & basketball

Cougarpride

6/23/15 6:54pm

Bronco's not technically wrong when he says this.. I just don't like it because

Harrison0Yfan

6/23/15 8:17pm

It does not sound like an excuse

PolarisPrime

6/23/15 10:15pm

much the same as the word "elite"

icecougar

6/24/15 10:44am

That's why I say "sounds like it"

Harrison0Yfan

6/26/15 6:28pm

One aspect of Bronco's approach to his job that is over-blown is...

icecougar

6/23/15 8:28pm

I agree. BYU football is only an effective missionary tool

eddog

6/23/15 9:43pm

Are you sure it has nothing to do with....

Wingnut

6/23/15 9:39pm

Didn't "football is fifth" lead to fewer and shorter practices?

CoogsWin

6/23/15 11:03pm

Hey, don't tell truths like that. Gee wiz.

Cougarfan777

6/23/15 11:11pm

No. It did not lead to fewer and shorter practices.

PolarisPrime

6/24/15 3:23pm

Saying that Bronco "occasionally" shortened bowl practices is a serious

SJS

6/24/15 3:32pm

I was not refering to bowl practices.

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