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Dec 17, 2014
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fanbraves10
Hard to argue with Doak.
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Top 10 Rbs at BYU in the modern era (Lavell forward)
ChopperDave
12/17/14 11:24am
Harvey is #1.
Blueto
12/17/14 11:26am
Luuuuuuuuuuke was the best, period
ChopperDave
12/17/14 11:27am
Luke was a sprinter who benefited from a QB who could r the option to perfection
Blueto
12/17/14 11:31am
If you put Luke on those Hall-Pitta-Collie teams we would have been BCS busters.
fanbraves10
12/17/14 11:33am
I don't agree.
Blue Cat
12/17/14 11:39am
Disagree... just watch a game from 2001
ChopperDave
12/17/14 11:46am
I've seen them all and it doesn't change my opinion. If I'm starting a team
Blueto
12/17/14 11:57am
then why does Harvey have 1,000 more career yards than Luke? Doman/Crowton made
palangi
12/17/14 12:09pm
And Unga played with Hall-Collie-Pitta. Do you think Doman/Crowton could have
fanbraves10
12/17/14 12:14pm
Harvey would have been great in either situation. He was very versatile
palangi
12/17/14 2:14pm
I agree. Harvey would have been all-conference great in either situation.
fanbraves10
12/17/14 3:35pm
you forgot to add option back after aa great. Luke wasn't even a all conf rb b4
palangi
12/17/14 3:49pm
Someone get the Doak Walker Award Committe on the line!!!
fanbraves10
12/17/14 4:11pm
you realize the Doak is a yearly award right? Are you arguing who is the best
palangi
12/17/14 4:23pm
What's the question? If it's career then it's Harvey
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/17/14 4:38pm
Oh I thought you said Luke was an AA option back, not a running back.
fanbraves10
12/17/14 4:48pm
2001 he was a rb who ran the option, so I called it option back.As a traditional
palangi
12/17/14 5:35pm
do you remember 1999 and 2000? you're talking apples and oranges here.
macaroni
12/17/14 10:01pm
nah, you obviously don't get it
palangi
12/17/14 10:07pm
excellent response. lol. it's usually better to make an argument with, you know,
macaroni
12/17/14 10:15pm
ok here we go. hardly ever 1000 yard rushers b4 Stayley, except for of course
palangi
12/18/14 12:10am
you didn't really help your case, honestly. if you look only at numbers, then
macaroni
12/18/14 6:31am
No doubt Harvey's awesome, but he's not in the nfl either ...
ZooBlue
12/17/14 10:06pm
oh, ok. and harvey didn't benefit from hall, pitta, and collie? DOAK WALKER.
macaroni
12/17/14 3:07pm
Here's the problem with saying Staley is the best. Everything actually does
Blueto
12/17/14 5:29pm
i understand that, but you've got to really put it all in context.
macaroni
12/17/14 9:55pm
smart post
ZooBlue
12/17/14 10:09pm
Good post! is the debate production or talent?
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/17/14 11:33pm
good question. i don't think it's either one...kinda. i think it's if you had
macaroni
12/18/14 6:31am
benefitting from the system is putting it lightly for 2001 Staley
palangi
12/18/14 12:25am
So answer the question then. Would Harvey have been AA, Doak Walker Award winner
fanbraves10
12/18/14 12:43am
I don't think so, but it's a hypothetical, go with what we know. Both ran
palangi
12/18/14 1:04am
you're not being objective, and you're not taking into account mitigating
macaroni
12/18/14 6:39am
I would absolutely take Unga, someone who you know will give you 100+ yards
palangi
12/18/14 9:22am
fair enough. we disagree, but it was good to read your thoughts, though.
macaroni
12/18/14 12:37pm
...kind of like benefitting from the top two players in terms of production in
macaroni
12/18/14 6:34am
I disagree, loved him, but Doman made him. He didn't have Harvey's or Williams'
palangi
12/17/14 11:37am
Do you think Harvey would have done just as well with Doman?
fanbraves10
12/17/14 11:39am
little different skill set, Harvey wasn't as fast, but we know how good Luke did
palangi
12/17/14 11:49am
You didn't really answer the question, but I think you were leaning towards
fanbraves10
12/17/14 12:04pm
funny thing about Hall/Collie/Pitta is Staley had Doman/Jolley/Mahe
palangi
12/17/14 12:12pm
Right, He had Doman/Jolley/Mahe for only his senior year when he exploded.
fanbraves10
12/17/14 12:14pm
Luke was great as an option back, but Harvey was a better RB. It's not debatable
palangi
12/17/14 1:59pm
Luke was a better Jedi but Harvey was a better 6' 3.5" tall invisible rabbit.
Go_Trojans
12/17/14 2:02pm
RE: Luke was a better Jedi but Harvey was a better 6' 3.5" tall invisible
southernfriedcougar
12/17/14 2:14pm
Luuuke made Doman; Doman lost when Luuuke went down..
ZooBlue
12/17/14 4:47pm
Absolutly Luuuukin' true - DB speed in a linebacker's body
ZooBlue
12/17/14 11:40am
Hard to argue with Doak.
fanbraves10
12/17/14 11:28am
+1
Ironhide
12/17/14 11:58am
Harvey is solid, and perhaps better between the tackles, but he didn't have
TNT
12/17/14 11:31am
Willis is #1
foofcoug
12/17/14 11:27am
J-Swagg should be ahead of Curtis Brown and Bellini
donnerstag
12/17/14 11:27am
No way- CuBro better production, better durability, and the pass catching
ChopperDave
12/17/14 11:29am
I LOVE Curtis Brown but he's not Jamaal.
southernfriedcougar
12/17/14 11:32am
Compare their stats through 3 seasons
donnerstag
12/17/14 11:44am
If you look at all-time best you have to include Brown's senior year as well.
jreid191
12/17/14 11:50am
It's not really apples to apples to include their senior seasons
donnerstag
12/17/14 11:58am
He can earn his way up the list with a solid senior year
Sea Chicken
12/17/14 11:31am
Williams had better Freshmen and Sophomore years than Brown, but Brown was VERY
jreid191
12/17/14 11:46am
His senior year wasn't incredible.
southernfriedcougar
12/17/14 12:02pm
I suspect that if Williams stays healthy next year he'll have the season to pass
jreid191
12/17/14 12:05pm
Pete Vanvalkenberg (Lavell's first year)
PolarCoug
12/17/14 11:35am
TNT hasn't seen him but heard he was good
TNT
12/17/14 11:44am
All he did was lead the nation in rushing.
PolarCoug
12/17/14 11:53am
He was technically a QB though, wasn't he?
BYUMizzou
12/17/14 12:54pm
I think you are thinking of eldon fortie
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/17/14 1:25pm
took his geology class at Dixie state.
TheWarden
12/17/14 1:36pm
Willis and brown a little higher and I think
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/17/14 11:58am
Taysom Hill and Riley Nelson should be on this list
Go_Trojans
12/17/14 12:09pm
TNT thinks Gunther said it best on Riley. He's a safety
TNT
12/17/14 12:14pm
Didn't Jenkins only play one year?
Ulysses14
12/17/14 1:10pm
Played 2
Tuskaloosa Cougar
12/17/14 1:21pm
Here's my list
jreid191
12/17/14 7:25pm
Luke is the best BYU player I've seen, other than vague memories of Ty
Ulysses14
12/18/14 2:27pm
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