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Nov 22, 2014
10:19
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Chandler Cougar
Agree - it would be like fans of Harvard saying "I just want to win - forget
academics. Wish they would not focus so much on school work here."
Sorry - it is part of the fabric of the school ... just like honor code, character and church are stressed at BYU.
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I'm sick of the "Bronco is teaching young men to be men" sentiment.
ChubbyChaser
11/22/14 9:20pm
He's doing what he was asked to do by the brethren, perhaps to a fault.
Duke Silver
11/22/14 9:23pm
He can absolutely assist them in becoming men, but he is paid a lot of money
vacougfan
11/22/14 9:26pm
so are the Professors at BYU only focused on the subject they teach?
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 9:29pm
Their research and then their teaching
concolor couguar
11/22/14 9:43pm
not spiritual growth? Thought they had a prayer at the start of class?
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 9:49pm
i would say less than 25% start with a prayer
concolor couguar
11/22/14 9:50pm
ha ha ... ok ... then we can just disagree. That is what prayer would tell me
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 9:54pm
ha ok well bronco can stop at opening prayers at games then
concolor couguar
11/22/14 9:58pm
you do know BYU is a church sponsored school right? Why does the focusing on
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 10:09pm
The real question is how, specifically, does the focus on spiritual matters take
CalGTR
11/22/14 10:16pm
I don't think it does. But I think it attracts a different kind of kid. Kids
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 10:40pm
At BYU, we understand the unique aspects of the school and the benefits and
CalGTR
11/22/14 11:07pm
I'm actually not bothered by it at all but you
concolor couguar
11/22/14 11:28pm
At BYU, he was not hired just to win football games
2FarGone
11/22/14 9:32pm
RE: At BYU, he was not hired just to win football games
unctoothman
11/22/14 9:56pm
I agree, but I think he was asked to be a spiritual leader
2FarGone
11/22/14 10:02pm
Spiritual leader is too strong of a term. He was asked to run a clean program,
CalGTR
11/22/14 10:25pm
Specifically, what does Bronco need to stop doing in the spiritual area so that
CalGTR
11/22/14 10:07pm
I like that aspect because it improves our recruiting profile,
Shimmy
11/22/14 9:26pm
So if you sent your kids to BYU to get a degree in Accounting - would you care
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 9:27pm
I would want them to graduate fully qualified in accounting.
k-ace
11/22/14 9:34pm
that is fair ... but by your own post you said you just want him to win and dev
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 9:45pm
I don't think my expectations are too high.
k-ace
11/22/14 9:51pm
I agree with what you said - my mistake ... thought you wrote original post
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 9:56pm
RE: I'm sick of the "Bronco is teaching young men to be men" sentiment.
BYURider
11/22/14 9:28pm
Because obviously the players family's, friends, and church leaders aren't.
Gerald-DeGroot
11/22/14 9:29pm
I'm with you. I know it's "more important", but I'm a fan of a football team not
8man
11/22/14 9:32pm
Here's my take on BYU and lower expectations
franklyvulgar
11/22/14 9:39pm
That sentiment is actually pretty common in football not just at BYU.
SCcoug
11/22/14 9:39pm
The best way to teach young men how to be men is to teach them to do their job.
unctoothman
11/22/14 9:54pm
I have sat in players meetings and coaches meetings there and if you think that
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 10:00pm
I'm not saying how it is or isn't.
unctoothman
11/22/14 10:35pm
The other team is doing all they can to win as well. Some times BYU just isn't
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 10:43pm
Cool. What you want is exactly what is already happening. It's like a lot of you
CalGTR
11/22/14 10:05pm
The lack of NFL draft picks and the mediocre on-field performance
k-ace
11/22/14 10:12pm
what should the winning % be? How many draft picks should there be?
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 10:16pm
Definitely should have at least as many draft picks as USU. And winning %
k-ace
11/22/14 10:23pm
Maybe so, but how are you able to determine that the spiritual aspects of
CalGTR
11/22/14 10:18pm
I think you are right. I don't think the problem is the focus on spirituality.
k-ace
11/22/14 10:25pm
That's where the focus should be as far as fan criticism is concerned - legit
CalGTR
11/22/14 10:45pm
almost always comes down to talent. You don't think the talent pool available
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 10:46pm
Sorensen couldn't even sniff the 2 deep at BYU and ended up in the NFL after
k-ace
11/22/14 11:16pm
good points
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 11:20pm
There are always misses that can be pointed to at every program. I actually
CalGTR
11/23/14 12:01am
Two things: First, as SCoug pointed out, developing young men is actually a very
CalGTR
11/22/14 10:01pm
Agree - it would be like fans of Harvard saying "I just want to win - forget
Chandler Cougar
11/22/14 10:19pm
Yes, sort of. I get what you're saying about the fabric of the school. The big
CalGTR
11/22/14 10:29pm
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