Maybe, but it’s great to look at it in hindsight and say “It was wrong there.”

Dec 18, 2024
8:23:22pm

cougaman Truly Addicted User

Truth is, it almost worked to perfection against Kansas, but the Int and the pooch punt cost the game. Neither of those had anything to do with a slow paced offense, the Int was when they were in the hurry up.

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I really dislike the slow pace of the offense, for several reasons.

acadian8 All-American

12/17/24 4:59pm

#2 is your only valid point if any substance.

Cougarbib

12/17/24 5:06pm

Maybe not #1, but #3 certainly is. Slower paces result in an average margin of

BYUCLA

12/17/24 5:47pm

Neither make a big difference because more possessions for O puts our D out for

Cougarbib

12/17/24 7:01pm

10-2

Cougarclaw

12/17/24 5:07pm

And the biggest loss was in big part because of slow pace

I'mBatman

12/17/24 5:29pm

The biggest loss was from giving up 3 quick TDs and an onsides kick.

Cougarbib

12/17/24 7:03pm

Such a narrow-minded comment…

LOLzzz

12/17/24 5:30pm

I completely fail to understand why CBers want to downplay our record. For some strange reason so many are unsatisfied

HarlemCoug

12/17/24 5:43pm

Being 10-2 means we lost twice and the offense was a key part of those losses

arcawley

12/17/24 6:25pm

The D and ST were at least as big a part of those losses. 3 TDs in 1st half.

Cougarbib

12/17/24 7:06pm

I’m not downplaying the record. I said two things can be good at the same time.

LOLzzz

12/17/24 8:32pm

I don't understand the desire to use it as a talisman against any and all

russkiejedi

12/18/24 8:15pm

RE: Such a narrow-minded comment…

Cougarclaw

12/17/24 6:12pm

It’s also narrow minded to dismiss the fact that byu overperformed, and it

cougaman

12/17/24 7:47pm

Pat on the back to those who are content with almost excellent. 10-2 beat preseason expectations, 10-2 was below

unctoothman

12/17/24 8:50pm

So you aren’t going to give any credit on the wins to a slow paced offense and

cougaman

12/17/24 8:53pm

No the disconnect is that people are saying you have to be happy with a 10-2

LOLzzz

12/17/24 9:03pm

That's exactly what I'm saying. You do have to be happy with a 10-2. If you're not, then you're doing BYU football wrong

HarlemCoug

12/17/24 9:08pm

I can be happy w/ 10-2 & upset that we lost the last 2/3. Not mutually exclusive

arcawley

12/17/24 9:14pm

Enjoy your participation trophy 😂

LOLzzz

12/17/24 9:17pm

Sure there is room for improvement, but it’s being implied that the pace of the

cougaman

12/17/24 9:53pm

Exactly this whole thread is about finding ways to improve upon this season…

LOLzzz

12/17/24 10:21pm

I’m not sure you understood a word that I said.

cougaman

12/17/24 10:27pm

Nor you I…

LOLzzz

12/17/24 10:30pm

First, this thread isn’t about finding ways to improve, it’s about pace of play

cougaman

12/17/24 10:38pm

The initial post in the thread is about changing pace of play TO IMPROVE 😂

LOLzzz

12/17/24 10:56pm

Right, it’s about pace of play. Not “ways”, a single “way.”

cougaman

12/17/24 11:03pm

It worked to start the season, but not finding ways to improve

LOLzzz

12/18/24 10:38am

They missed an opportunity they might not have had if they weren’t doing that

cougaman

12/18/24 12:43pm

🤡 It was apparent in previous games throughout the season prior. Utah showed

LOLzzz

12/18/24 3:22pm

It was also apparent that our defense was great and benefited from the strategy.

cougaman

12/18/24 3:40pm

Everything works until it doesn’t. That’s where good coaches adjust and adapt.

LOLzzz

12/18/24 3:46pm

So it was a good plan that helped our defense and helped contribute to the 10

cougaman

12/18/24 4:20pm

No the D (Jay Hill) made adjustments that contributed to those 10 wins.

LOLzzz

12/18/24 5:09pm

I did not say Arod was responsible for it. I don’t think it’s coming from him.

cougaman

12/18/24 8:06pm

That’s a rich take 🤡

LOLzzz

12/18/24 9:20pm

The head coach can absolutely tell the OC what to do, and he is going to have

cougaman

12/18/24 9:32pm

But to claim the DC has more say of the pace of the offense than the OC 😂

LOLzzz

12/18/24 9:34pm

You mean HC and associate head coach.

cougaman

12/18/24 9:38pm

Hill doesn't step across the ball to tell the OC what to do. Shoot, Kalani rarely tells the OC what to do. The offense

unctoothman

12/19/24 5:41am

Also your BM cussing me out would indicate your argument is weak at best.

LOLzzz

12/18/24 9:35pm

Sorry, I don’t pay for BMs so I can’t respond to the BMs you are sending

LOLzzz

12/18/24 9:40pm

Thats funny since you did respond. You obviously have are anti Arod.

cougaman

12/18/24 9:48pm

In order to be able to respond more than twice in an hour you gotta pay.

LOLzzz

12/18/24 11:06pm

Hill gave up 21 straight before adjusting anything vs ASU.

Cougarbib

12/19/24 12:52am

Pace of play wasn't done to help the defense. Ever. It was done because Retzlaff was playing hurt, because we had an

unctoothman

12/19/24 5:38am

The slow paced offense shouldn't be a straightjacket. There will be games wheie

russkiejedi

12/18/24 8:17pm

Maybe, but it’s great to look at it in hindsight and say “It was wrong there.”

cougaman

12/18/24 8:23pm

In hindsight? The Kansas game was a debacle throughout. It almost worked anyway

russkiejedi

12/18/24 9:53pm

And the slow pace is probably meant to help the defense stay fresh due to lack

cougaman

12/18/24 9:56pm

List the Big 12 teams that were better than 10-2. We happened to play our

Cougarbib

12/17/24 9:08pm

We are 10-2. Our recruiting rankings are WAY above our AP rankings. And you think our scheme was wrong? Of course the

HarlemCoug

12/17/24 5:40pm

I’m old enough to remember when CBers cried about the fast pace of Anae’s GFGH.

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