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DirtyWater
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Get rid of CCG games and just do this:
nephicoug
11:59am
That takes away the fun of crowing a true conference champion
mudpupper
12:00pm
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DirtyWater
12:13pm
Once conferences are so big that you don’t play everyone, they become less
Rexy Coug
12:28pm
A better alternative (suggested by someone I read somewhere) is to have game 12
TailgateU
1:04pm
Could even be fun to have cross conference games the week of CCG
PHXSUNS31
1:17pm
No. Each conference should have a 4 team conf playoff.
Icelandic Cougar
12:01pm
5 extra games for the champion is like an extra half-season.
OPINIONS
12:02pm
shorten the regular season to 11. 16 games max.
Schultz is back
12:08pm
We're already there. If a Round 1 team plays in the CCG and then plays for natty
Doogal McCougar
12:13pm
1 CCG and 4 (max) CFP games currently. So no different if you eliminate the CCG
thewaterboy
12:48pm
I'd say do both. Make the final weekend conference championship weekend. Have
thewaterboy
12:05pm
Money
Charles Darwin
12:12pm
Careful. People love first round byes for undeserving teams around here.
Methusaleh22
12:12pm
I like this concept....
BYU Grounds
12:13pm
This looks great BUT... Making the postseason better at the expense of the regular season isn't appealing to me. I enjoy
HarlemCoug
12:13pm
That’s not true re cutting regular season unless you count CCGs as regular seaso
chilawcoug
12:25pm
I do count them as regular season. The worry is injury. By the time a national champion is crowned it's not crazy to
HarlemCoug
2:24pm
There is no reason to include teams like Ohio, Marshall, and Jacksonville State
RealTaysomHill
12:15pm
If they play in the same FBS level, they absolutely should be included.
Doogal McCougar
12:21pm
Auto bids to all conf champs ranked 20 or higher
byuTX
12:25pm
If you have a 24-team playoff, it seems like you'd have to give autobids out to
thewaterboy
12:52pm
He wants it down to 16, so it would do some work
chilawcoug
12:53pm
Unranked teams don't deserve a shot
byuTX
12:55pm
No, they shouldn’t. We don’t have to pretend like a 9-4 Jacksonville State might be the best team in the country
RealTaysomHill
12:29pm
We all know UMBC sucks. No way they are as good as Virginia. UVA is the number 1
chilawcoug
12:31pm
Stop pretending like basketball and football are the same
RealTaysomHill
12:38pm
Stop pretending that they aren’t similar
chilawcoug
12:41pm
It took a long time for a 16 to upset a 1, but those games are getting more and
CameronG
12:45pm
The increase in 15 seeds and 16 seeds winning also coincides decently well with
chilawcoug
12:48pm
Again, if we had a 68 team playoff, let them in. But there’s no reason to let them into a limited playoff when we
RealTaysomHill
3:09pm
Where do you get the idea I'm arguing their resumes?
CameronG
3:22pm
then kick them out of the FBS. That's a better solution than having them get beat up on national tv.
HarlemCoug
2:25pm
Let's also get rid of the 13-16 seeds in the NCAA bball tournament. No reason to include teams like them.
SierraCoug
12:22pm
In a 68 team playoff in football, we can include them. But not now. Especially when basketball and football are so
RealTaysomHill
12:25pm
It’s actually about the same ratio because there are fewer FBS conferences
chilawcoug
12:27pm
You misunderstand what I’m saying
RealTaysomHill
12:38pm
But there are fewer BS teams than D1 basketball teams, so that negates the
chilawcoug
12:40pm
No, it doesn’t. Football rosters are way bigger than basketball rosters.
RealTaysomHill
3:00pm
So teams seeded 12-16 in the NCAA Tournament don't deserve to be there for the
CameronG
3:27pm
The point of the playoff is to crown a champion, not figure out the best team.
chilawcoug
3:53pm
The point of the playoffs is to crown a champion of the best teams. That’s the whole point.
RealTaysomHill
4:04pm
Is it to crown the best team or a champion of the best teams? If it is just
chilawcoug
4:10pm
Then let them prove it on the field and if they are so scared of losing to
CameronG
4:28pm
Everyone needs to remember these clever ideas when we roll out the new national championship playoff
Underhill
12:19pm
Replace undeserving teams like Ohio, Marshall, Jacksonville to get it down to 16. No byes, 4 weeks. 1st 2 home sites
byuTX
12:22pm
Or let them in so it’s a playoff where every team 100% controls their own
chilawcoug
12:28pm
No thanks. Let them earn a spot rather than give it to them
byuTX
12:34pm
Hahahaha earning a spot is exactly what I’m advocating. If an invitational is so
chilawcoug
12:35pm
Quite the opposite. Let them in if they can make it ~top 20
byuTX
12:36pm
“We’ll let the NCF West champion in if a committee with unlimited discretion
chilawcoug
12:39pm
The "NCF West champion" made its team up of drafted players, trades and FA's with a salary cap, collective bargaining,
byuTX
12:42pm
Okay substitute any sport or any league you want.
chilawcoug
12:43pm
Find me a sport where the resources are so different within the same division, whose teams aren't acquired through draft
byuTX
12:46pm
Every other college sport and division?
chilawcoug
12:49pm
there isn't a sport close to as different from biggest spender to lowest as FBS FB. The real solution is G5/P4 split
byuTX
12:51pm
You don’t think that D1 basketball is similar or even close? lol
chilawcoug
12:52pm
You do? lol
byuTX
12:55pm
Yeah I think the difference between Duke basketball and Coppin State basketball
chilawcoug
12:59pm
I don't. Coppin State, if good enough to get the 16 has a better shot vs. a #1 Duke than JSU has at Oregon. Not close.
byuTX
2:17pm
I guess you don't realize where the teams that get the 16 seeds are ranked in
CameronG
3:25pm
It’s silly to think JSU has any real chance at Oregon or UGA. Much easier in CBB.
byuTX
4:38pm
I agree, we all know Northern Illinois is the only team with a shot. JSU would
chilawcoug
4:55pm
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byuTX
5:29pm
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chilawcoug
5:36pm
And who decides if they're Top 20? How do they "prove it" if the big boys
CameronG
12:51pm
Through the magic of sight
byuTX
2:17pm
Like figure skating. No thanks.
mvtoro
2:33pm
I agree with that. But in figure skating they are all graded for doing the same thing. JSU shouldn’t be given a spot for
byuTX
4:36pm
Nah. When you make subjectivity control who is and who isn’t able to even compete for a “championship” in a league, then
mvtoro
4:52pm
Invitational is preferable at this level of CFB until major changes similar to those I laid out happen. That’s what we
byuTX
5:30pm
I agree that it’s a pipe dream because of power dynamics (short of a government “commissioner” takeover”) but it’s not
mvtoro
5:42pm
I think it makes sense…put top 4 from each P4, each G5 champ, 3 at-large
PHXSUNS31
12:54pm
RE: Get rid of CCG games and just do this:
Greg4BYU
12:55pm
How many regular season games does fcs
Cooouuugs
1:39pm
Or maybe just have a 16 team playoff, no bye
SV72 Sale
3:17pm
I like conference championships. It should hurt if you lose. Smu should be out.
ParentingNotForSissy
3:53pm
Meh. It should hurt even more if you don't qualify for the CCG.
Doogal McCougar
4:18pm
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