QB still has to make his reads & throw the ball. And there's still the

Nov 29, 2024
12:53:01pm

gopman All-American

irrefutable fact of facing much tougher defenses in the Big 12.

Give Retzlaff a MWC-full schedule & his stats absolutely blow up. Wyoming is the perfect example.

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Hate to say it but BSU Madsen > Retzlaff

Das_Countach

11:59am

I bet Retzlaff would love to play against stacked boxes and bad competition

kimdaddy35

12:00pm

And a complimentary running game like Madsen gets

2FarGone

12:02pm

Madsen - 21 TDs vs 3 int’s, Retz 20:10… if BYU has Madsen, they’re 11-0 rn- Retz

Das_Countach

12:06pm

Again, the life of a QB becomes much easier with an other worldly running game

kimdaddy35

12:08pm

Not true

thewaterboy

12:11pm

I was a star in elementary football recess, sounds like I should tryout

puntersarepeople

12:14pm

RE: I was a star in elementary football recess, sounds like I should tryout

thewaterboy

12:15pm

Sark made a huge jump his Sr. year in 1996 thanks to McKenzie

gopman

12:19pm

I dont know why its so hard for many to accept Retz is just average- every stat

Das_Countach

12:14pm

The point is Madsen is average at best

puntersarepeople

12:15pm

No, Madsen QBR is top 25, Retz is 62nd, literally average

Das_Countach

12:17pm

Retzlaff dominated Wyoming. Madsen plays a team that bad more often than not

puntersarepeople

12:19pm

Completely agree, though Madsen showing as 29th in QBR. But much better than 62

legiaourbana

12:20pm

If you truly believe MWC defenses are on par with the Big 12 I have a

gopman

12:33pm

Other than Jeanty, Madsen would have better offensive weapons, a better line at

Das_Countach

12:42pm

QB still has to make his reads & throw the ball. And there's still the

gopman

12:53pm

Yet in the one game Madsen played against a good team (Oregon), his QBR was 60.4

Junior Deputy

12:34pm

Retzlaff has faced far superior defenses compared to what Madsen has

gopman

12:22pm

Helps to have the best RB since Barry Sanders 😂

arcawley

12:00pm

It also helps to not throw the ball into the defensive linemen 5 times a game.

byubyu

12:04pm

Without Jeanty, Boise is mid at best, including Madsen

letthewookieewin

12:00pm

Koetter >>>>>>>> Arod

Chester Copperpot

12:02pm

Naw.

The Pope

12:16pm

Haven’t seen BSU run a jet sweep today. Koetter has coached in the NFL.

Chester Copperpot

12:18pm

And was fired. He was also a tool bag at ASU. I repeat, naw on DK

The Pope

12:39pm

Jake is an average QB. Half the time your happy and the other half not so much.

maYbe

12:04pm

Retz is good when it doesn’t matter, between the 20s, when there’s no pressure

Das_Countach

12:09pm

And Madsen hands it off when the game is on the line. Great comparison

puntersarepeople

12:10pm

Yes when the game was on the line vs Oklahoma St and Utah he sure let the pressure get to him.

kimdaddy35

12:18pm

Always anomalies. Vs Utah, he was bailed out, but how about OU last year,

Das_Countach

12:20pm

He was bailed out against Utah? You aren't very intelligent

kimdaddy35

12:22pm

lol, now I know you lost the debate w/ your weak personal attacks 😂🤡

Das_Countach

12:24pm

You thought we were debating? That is pretty funny.

kimdaddy35

12:25pm

You lost bro, 😂 you always revert to personal attacks when you lose

Das_Countach

12:26pm

RE: You lost bro, 😂 you always revert to personal attacks when you lose

kimdaddy35

12:29pm

lol, the irony coming from the oft mocked Kimdaddy 😂😂

Das_Countach

12:30pm

Bailed out? You sound like a Ute

arcawley

12:25pm

Bailed out meaning he played like trash- 0 tds, 45 QBR, 45 completion %, 3 sacks

Das_Countach

12:29pm

Funny you try to back track as we were talking about late game situations, not the entire game.

kimdaddy35

12:32pm

I’ve backtracked on nothing…

Das_Countach

12:33pm

Then late game how was Retzlaff bailed out against Utah. Explain yourself.

kimdaddy35

12:34pm

…I did already— do you even read anything?

Das_Countach

12:38pm

That is what I thought. Either you aren't bright enough to realize quoting game stats

kimdaddy35

12:51pm

lol, personal attacks again I see because you have no argument 😂 try again bud!

Das_Countach

12:53pm

Hate to say it? Then don't.

Benfica1

12:21pm

I hate to say it, but its true… hes hit his ceiling and making crucial mistakes

Das_Countach

12:32pm

He’s playing through injury right now and isn’t fully himself most recently

puntersarepeople

12:39pm

RE: He was bailed out against Utah? You aren't very intelligent

kimdaddy35

12:27pm

Sounds like you don’t really hate to say it, which is a shame cuz it’s a 🤡 take

Junior Deputy

12:31pm

How is calling a 62nd rated QB avg, which by definition is avg… would love to

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