In general the B12 (current form) is easier in football than the legacy P12. I will get blasted.

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Nov 26, 2024
4:12:14pm

Cougstreak All-American

In general the B12 (current form) is easier in football than the legacy P12. I will get blasted.

Current B12 vs P12 the legacy P12 is tougher if it stayed together.

Oregon - playoff bound and ranked #1. Legit contender.

Washington- played for the NC last year.

USC - down but can be good again.

These teams are above what we have in the B12.

ASU - B12 contender this year.

Colorado - another B12 contender.

There is not any B12 teams that I see competing in the playoffs or that have recently (I could be wrong).

Now if you added Texas and Oklahoma back in that is a different story. That was not the argument, it was current B12 vs legacy P12 and which is more difficult.

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Nice to hear K-State HC Chris Klieman rant about the Big 12 disrespect

CaliWG

Nov 25, 11:29pm

Stupid that MWC almost is an easier path to CFB. We thought we’d gotten past the

seacougar

Nov 25, 11:34pm

Yeah, why is it the Top 5 conf champs and not Top 4? With 4 byes it should be 4.

andrewg3

12:02am

Because it was always thought that the top 4 would be your conf champs

12:38am

Because when it was written, there were still 5 power conferences.

Y05

4:50am

It actually was a 6+6 model before the Pac 12 dissolved and then earlier

6:09am

And we don't even have a weak schedule this year.

Y05

6:24am

I've often thought about how, if there was a legit playoff, then it wouldn't

porl thompson

6:46am

This isn't a legit playoff. There would be no committee.

Y05

7:03am

Agree, but at least it's better than the 2 and 4 team sham "playoffs" we used to

porl thompson

8:30am

True, but NEED 24 to 28 teams like the other divisions of college football have

RUNBYU1

9:13am

Starting with both teams that make it to P4 CCG games. Maybe eventually replace CCG’s with 1st round of playoffs.

1:41pm

Neither does FCS. But many are clamoring for a model like that to be employed. They have a committee that picks 14 of

unctoothman

4:22pm

It’s a far easier path. Boise would have four losses in the big 12 if not more. Less than a one score game against wy

KYU

10:40am

And the Big 12 plays 6 away games vs 4 for the SEC and Big 10

byusage

Nov 25, 11:43pm

This^

seacougar

Nov 25, 11:58pm

Let’s learn from this and schedule like the SEC here on out. Let’s be smart

Borg

12:35am

Do we really want to watch 4 punching bag games at home?

byusage

5:43am

1. I like watching wins no matter who the opponent is. 2. If that's the trade

Y05

6:17am

Along with 4 good B12 teams? Certainly.

Soupie

8:32am

This has so many benefits that it should be taken advantage of immediately

Pobs

8:53am

This is why you need a 16 team playoff. You will get multiple teams from each

Cougar TD

Nov 25, 11:59pm

24 to 28 teams like the other divisions have proven to work forever

RUNBYU1

9:14am

I just don't see this every happening. Which means it will 😉

Cougar TD

9:17am

Make deep playoff runs and win the natty regularly. That's what Big 12 has to do

Y05

4:39am

Didn't help when TCU and Baylor got shafted in 2014...

puntersarepeople

8:35am

True, but when the SEC/B1G each have 4 teams in playoffs (vs 1) = disadvantage

10:19am

You're speaking the truth to fans who won't accept this. Win and earn it.

10:40am

That is the correct thinking when everyone has the same access, but everyone doesn't

Remigius

1:18pm

He's not wrong. While the B1G plays 9 league games. The "big bad" SEC only plays

TrueBlue67

6:55am

Complete garbage.

LateToTheGame

7:11am

Many of you may disagree but Utah and OSU are at fault, our two programs failed the Big 12.

Tokolosh

9:01am

It's true, but I hate it.

IdahoCoug

9:06am

So was that a Ute failure? (Yes they failed) Or was it the system that puts too much stock in

Soupie

9:11am

No matter what the Utes do, they are a failure. Paraphrasing the venerable Max Hall, their whole existence is a failure.

IdahoCoug

9:16am

Once again showing why there should not be any polls till about week 4 or 5.

airwolf

10:45am

Unfortunately, I agree. Preseason expectations matter. Teams like ASU and BYU

CougBlu

11:26am

This is true. And it shows why preseason rankings and hype are stupid.

Atmospheric_Cougar

12:05pm

Don’t put words in my mouth. I did say I expected them to compete for the Big 12 championship, not breeze through.

Tokolosh

1:26pm

LOL, what words did I put in your mouth? Please be specific.

Atmospheric_Cougar

2:31pm

A bunch of Ute homers on CB (including you Tokolosh) were loving Utah's preseason hype and ranked position.

Tokolosh

2:39pm

That is not putting words in your mouth. It is calling out all Ute homers on CB.

Atmospheric_Cougar

3:12pm

You said I was loving the preseason hype... I was not. I've got plenty of posts calling out that I didn't trust Cam...

Tokolosh

3:19pm

In general the B12 (current form) is easier in football than the legacy P12. I will get blasted.

Cougstreak

4:12pm

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Atmospheric_Cougar

2:30pm

I kind of agree with this... although Utah had no business carrying the conference and they were overrated coming in...

Coug

2:46pm

Coaches arguing with Refs is a mental game too.Big12 needs to get a political push to land 2 teams. 10-2 BYU makes sense

Dr MoBYU

9:07am

The Big XII is also being punished by the media in its perception due the media being so wrong in its own preseason

Spiff

9:12am

that and all the top teams keep losing... that sure doesn't help

Hill4Heisman

4:35pm

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