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Nov 19, 2024
9:01:54am

shoganai Truly Addicted User

I just think you're exaggerating and using a lot of hyperbole to jump to a

completely unrealistic conclusion.

Sure, some QBs are better at gunning it than lofting it. But taking that to mean "touch" routes should be summarily removed from the playbook? And the OC should be prosecuted for ever daring to call a play that has one?

That is not reasonable, IMO.

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Gross - sorry if already been circulated here.

7:46am

He’s gotta be hurt

KYU

7:46am

He’s hurt so we don’t give him redzone touches? And injured players can play

Ron Mexico

8:06am

Ok, bummer. Put in Moa who’s been an absolute beast. Or Ropati for that matter

bornbyu93

9:36am

I've been saying that since UCF. Seems like he's on a pitch count

MaximusMeridius

11:25am

It's what the defense was giving them. Just gotta go with it. The defense has only given the offense 3 opportunities

foofcoug

7:49am

RE: It's what the defense was giving them. Just gotta go with it. The defense

BYUfannonLDS

7:58am

I’ve noticed this, it’s crazy. He’ll play between the 20s and get pulled

palangi

7:51am

He was in on a read option play and would have walked into the end zone if

stansburycoug

10:07am

We just need to watch the film, love one another, etc

byuTX

7:52am

Oh, and a quick timeout

byuTX

8:17am

How many total plays inside the 10 did we run the last two games?

shoganai

7:52am

That's what I don't know but I can think of one game altering situation vs KU

7:53am

Sample size is pretty important.

shoganai

7:54am

Throwing a fade on 1st & goal from the 5 for an INT does limit the amount of potential plays.

foofcoug

8:12am

Throwing an interception does. The route, itself, isn't really material.

shoganai

8:18am

The fact that an INT was thrown on the same route for a 2 point conversion the previous week means that it should not

foofcoug

8:22am

"This play failed last time, so we should never run it again," doesn't seem like

shoganai

8:28am

"I've seen this QB play for 2 years now and I know he struggles mightily with touch passes and hasn't gotten better...

foofcoug

8:38am

Retzlaff or ARod:

byuTX

8:44am

I think you're pretty much just making stuff up now.

shoganai

8:45am

Retzlaff's 2 known struggles - accuracy and touch passes. If it's not something that needs to be burned in there or

foofcoug

8:52am

I just think you're exaggerating and using a lot of hyperbole to jump to a

shoganai

9:01am

You're right, they shouldn't all be removed

stansburycoug

10:10am

Retzlaff hit Keanu Hill on that same play against SMU. I don’t recall you being outraged so maybe you missed that game.

Conan

10:59am

So he does it one time in a season and we are supposed to be thinking it is the

imdocrob

11:05am

Uh, yes. The matchup was there and the play has been successful in the past. Jake has shown that he can make that

Conan

11:23am

Ok by your standards...he has made that throw one time for a TD against

imdocrob

11:45am

Yes, I'm in favor of running successful plays until they aren't successful anymore.

Conan

12:22pm

A one time success does not equate to being successful...but yeah if we ran the

imdocrob

12:33pm

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NYC and Japan

1:21pm

You're logic also follows, just because the play failed against Utah, it isn't

NYC and Japan

1:26pm

I don't think the call was the issue (although i would have preferred we ran it on that down). The execution was poor.

BYUgoslav

12:24pm

Another reason why you don't call that play...you are going against a 4 year

imdocrob

12:34pm

They seemed to be running the ball so well on that drive, I would have liked to

BYUfannonLDS

8:20am

A different decision by the QB results in a TD. For an offense to be successful

shoganai

8:36am

It is also true of literally all pro, P4, G5, FCS, High school... QB and any

NYC and Japan

1:29pm

Three possessions worth on Saturday

BYU '80

9:01am

Looking at the play by play again, more than I remembered. Hinckley has been

JuicyJam

9:09am

Probably a combo of factors.

shoganai

9:19am

I love Ropati but he is not as good as LJ. From the small sample size I’ve

Coug98

11:58am

ARod absolutely loses his mind in the redzone.

maxpowers

8:31am

AMEN! Been screaming this since the last two games. Makes no sense. LJ is

Cougs2012

9:27am

And if it’s not LJ, put in Moa

TwinsRight

9:32am

Yes, why does Moa only get 1 carry, which he turned into a tough 12 yard gain,

robin

10:22am

That’s part of what made me so mad. Run it if you don’t get in you get a field goal before

NonmormonYfan89

9:34am

I’m more in favor of Moa inside the 10yd line

MHOP

9:53am

He’s been back for two games and gotten 2 carries both for over 10 yds a carry

Cougz19

11:08am

Patterns of Arod's idiocy. He needs to go, should have been gone years ago.

CObluezone

10:19am

How about Moa...every time that guy touches the ball he runs over guys...runs

imdocrob

10:46am

Wow! Just wow! Can't blame Jake when Arod doesn't know the best call to make.

Coug Dude

11:07am

I would hope we aren't blaming Jake for that play...it should have never been

imdocrob

11:47am

I was at the UCF game and noticed in crunch time when the offense was trying to

Coug98

11:27am

But it’s not coaching

2FarGone

11:50am

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