This point has been lost on BYU at times. And on Coaches.

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Nov 17, 2024
4:31:00pm

Madam Pattirini Truly Addicted User

This point has been lost on BYU at times. And on Coaches.

I've listened to and read discussions where it sure sounds like people thought we needed to pay our coaches more if we wanted better results. Not at all how that works. Maybe we need *different* coaches and *maybe* we need to pay them more to attract them. But CFB seems to think it is the amount you pay coaches that dictates their abilities.

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Madam Pattirini

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Has Kalani hit his ceiling as a coach? Should have won the game, but the

3:43pm

His ceiling is as high as byu is willing to pay for coordinators…

conetah

3:44pm

And to clarify, paying the same coordinator more won’t make him better.

3:47pm

This point has been lost on BYU at times. And on Coaches.

Madam Pattirini

4:31pm

Exactly this. Kalani probably isnt a scheme guru, but if he can hire right and

Resurgens

5:58pm

No, but A-Rod may have.

Yucatan

3:44pm

…Super Bowl by now!!!

niqmadu

3:44pm

His ceiling being right in competition for a conference title

CasualFan

3:45pm

Can't keep his players motivated, all the way to the end.

3:48pm

Horrible take

JKLCoug

3:51pm

Could be, that's why I asked the question.

3:52pm

Nope. Try again.

gopman

3:53pm

Bronco had a ceiling, and I was good with that. Many double digit win seasons,

3:55pm

Bronco had one double digit season in his last 6

donnerstag

4:18pm

I didn't look it up, I remember having more ten win seasons than not.

4:20pm

He definitely peaked in his first 5 years

donnerstag

5:30pm

That (among others) has been an issue his entire tenure.

gopman

3:52pm

Which is the norm for 97.5% of coaches out there, and that's ok.

3:57pm

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gopman

4:03pm

The TOP 25% of head coaches lose to multiple inferior opponents

gopman

4:09pm

And beating several teams he has no business beating.

CasualFan

4:04pm

He has but those wins have been offset with losses to Toledo, USF, UMass,

gopman

4:13pm

Address the point

CasualFan

4:30pm

At the same RATE as Kalani? Lol.

gopman

4:36pm

Yes. Look around the conference. BYU has a better record against bad teams

CasualFan

4:41pm

I'm talking about his entire tenure as head coach. Jay Hill is the reason

gopman

4:49pm

And I’m sure you know nothing of the tenure of all the other coaches in

CasualFan

4:53pm

I don't care about other head coaches. I care about ours. You still

gopman

4:59pm

What does this even mean?

NYCougz

3:46pm

Can he float to the ceiling?

3:47pm

RE: Can he float to the ceiling?

NYCougz

3:49pm

This is not a slam on kalani. I think he should stay, he's good for the kids and

3:46pm

Time to hit the panic button again!!!!

Cooouuugs

3:48pm

It's only been 5 minutes.

maYbe

3:49pm

seriously, CB is hilarious.

runnincoug

5:14pm

Why is this panic? It's a legit question without feeling the need to fire him.

3:50pm

Legit answer then is no. he had 4 wins last year, 9+ this year, he's growing

runnincoug

5:15pm

He hit his ceiling last year. It's all downhill from there

Belboz

3:49pm

Definitely. Time to fire him!

shoganai

3:49pm

Didn't say that

3:50pm

If you conclude the answer is yes, the demand to fire him is inevitable. May as

shoganai

4:07pm

That is not true. How many Vince Lombardi s and Nick Sabans are there?

4:19pm

I think he is and can be as good as his coordinators allow him to be. He's a great ambassador for the school and

foofcoug

3:49pm

Well thought out response. I love kalani as the HC and want him to stay. Just

3:52pm

How much credence do you lend to salary as being a limiting factor in

4:32pm

If that is the case then BYU is shooting itself in the foot. You're not going to get much real value if you shop at Temu

foofcoug

4:50pm

I think this is a conversation to have when the record isn't 9-1

MarylandFan

3:50pm

Just a bad night. He must’ve been motivating enough to get them to 9-0.

CougarGuy84

3:53pm

Just going by what the players said.

3:56pm

I don't put much stock in coach or player speak. I think the players

3:54pm

If so, it's probably among the ceilings of the best coaches in college football

Spindash

3:55pm

That is a well thought out answer. I agree with that.

4:00pm

well, he has blown through whatever ceiling this team should’ve accomplished this year

JOPE

3:55pm

That is true. They could have easily lost the OSU game and the Utah game.

3:59pm

He's shattered his past ceiling this year.

cajuncoug

5:35pm

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