I had only heard him over a number of years and I still had him pictured in my mind when he was younger (and more lean).

I'll always remember when I was living in Utah (I'm from Ohio and I lived 3 years in Utah and attended BYU and then returned to Ohio in mid 80's) and he was deciding which college to go to and the news came across screen at the bottom of whatever program we were watching that he had committed to Utah. That's how important his commitment was in the state of Utah. I've been disappointed with him ever since 😉