Yes, I believe that simulation is flawed, at least when it comes to the scenario

Oct 26, 2024
10:01:15pm

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of KSU, ISU, and BYU all finishing 11-1.

I don’t think the guy running the analysis fully understands the Big 12’s tie-breaking rules.

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Time

I wanted KSU to lose to give us a 2 game lead over them.

Magneto

Oct 26, 9:45pm

Need ISU to lose before their game.

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 9:47pm

We will be rooting for Utah one game

NYCougz

Oct 26, 9:47pm

Nah.

Yukon

Oct 26, 9:49pm

No really - we might

NYCougz

Oct 26, 9:59pm

It’s so much better for BYU, to have two undefeated teams (ISU & BYU) in B12 CCG

bluebrotha

Oct 26, 9:59pm

You're assuming we get through unscathed. Not a guarantee.

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 10:01pm

Even if BYU loses one game, it’s better to play undefeated ISU in the CCG. If

bluebrotha

Oct 26, 10:06pm

If we lose 1 game, will we be playing in the CCG?

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 10:22pm

There’s no way any team will pass BYU in rankings. BYU will go to the CCG.

bluebrotha

Oct 26, 10:33pm

Rankings have nothing to do with CCG tiebreakers.

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 11:19pm

That’s not what the contract says:

bluebrotha

Oct 27, 8:15am

You realize that "Section F" only applies if sections A through E don't

RGGeemer

Oct 27, 9:43am

First, you said rankings have ‘nothing to do with it’. I just proved you wrong.

bluebrotha

Oct 27, 9:51am

I didnt know that section f was there because all scenarios don't make it that

RGGeemer

Oct 27, 9:56am

You keep saying "Colorado won't be ranked above BYU". That is definitely

RGGeemer

Oct 27, 9:59am

It helps our resume for seeding though.

Bostonblue

Oct 26, 9:47pm

If we’re not B10 or SEC they won’t care about our SOS.

Magneto

Oct 26, 9:54pm

Sad but true:(

Magneto

Oct 26, 9:56pm

If BYU doesn’t make the CCG there is zero chance we get into the playoff. Zero.

YOHONOMOTO

Oct 26, 9:56pm

We are getting to the CCG. that’s why seeding matters.

Bostonblue

Oct 26, 9:57pm

KSU still one loss. ISU zero losses. CU one loss and up on Cincy.

YOHONOMOTO

Oct 26, 10:00pm

I think we have a shot at the CFP at 11-1. Not a great shot tho.

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 10:06pm

It’s our signature win, and we already have a virtual 2-game lead on them, since

Japan Coug

Oct 26, 9:47pm

Although it doesn't count if we end up in a 3 way tie with them and isu

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 9:49pm

Yes it does. Once you break the 3-way tie for 1st place, there is a separate

Japan Coug

Oct 26, 9:50pm

Not according to some interpretations of the tiebreaker rule. A little ambiguous

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 9:53pm

Link to discussion

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 9:54pm

Yes, I believe that simulation is flawed, at least when it comes to the scenario

Japan Coug

Oct 26, 10:01pm

It's a bit ambiguous.

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 10:07pm

That doesn’t make sense to me, if the 3 schools all end 11-1. BYU would lose the

Japan Coug

Oct 26, 9:58pm

I agree with you but that's not how the tiebreaker rules are written. It is a

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 10:04pm

That said, byu still wins the 2 way tiebreak with isu if our L is to ASU. SO we

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 10:05pm

I think that it requires a lot of lawyerly acrobatics to make the case that a

Japan Coug

Oct 26, 10:17pm

I thought so too. But that's what every simulator has right now. More than 1

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 10:21pm

Have you seen any done by a reputable source (not some rando on CB or Twitter)?

Japan Coug

Oct 26, 10:30pm

No. Someone on CB said they sent an email to the league asking about it. I hope

RGGeemer

Oct 26, 10:32pm

CFP rankings coming out and will be based on resume.

Byron McNertney

Oct 26, 9:49pm

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