Head to head does not apply if not all tied teams played each other according to

Oct 23, 2024
10:46:35am

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the official Big 12 tiebreaker policy.

"2. If all teams involved in the tie did not play each other and no team
defeated all other teams involved in the tie, move to the next step in
tiebreaker."

Big 12 Football Tiebreakers - 2024 Season (PDF) - Big 12 Conference

https://big12sports.com/documents/2024/9/5/Big_12_Football_2024_Tiebreaker_Policy.pdf

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RGGeemer

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For the smart people, does 11-1 guarantee we play for a conference championship?

FrontLineFan

10:28am

No. If there’s a three way tie between us, KSU, and ISU, we’re out

RealTaysomHill

10:29am

Welp, undefeated it is!

FrontLineFan

10:30am

There are other teams that could join a tie too - Colorado and Cincinnati

ZacSeljaas'Stache

10:30am

That could be a blessing in disguise if we're 11-1 though. We'd likely get an

ATLCoug2088

10:32am

Doubt it - committee has historically not punished teams for losing their 13th

RGGeemer

10:42am

They’ve also never placed a 1-loss P5 team worse than 7th

BYUCLA

1:49pm

Also true. Just depends on how many 0 and 1 loss teams there are in the P4 this

RGGeemer

1:59pm

How could there be a 3 way tie if we only have one loss

Lifer

10:32am

KSU beats ISU. No tiebreaker if we didn’t all play.

shimmy

10:33am

We’d have the tie breaker over Kansas St.

Superman21

10:39am

Doesn't matter since we didn't play Iowa State. Head to head doesn't apply in

RGGeemer

10:43am

So we beat KState, if they beat ISU and we both have 1 loss then KState and ISU

Bryceo19

11:06am

We would get in over ISU

RGGeemer

12:05pm

If both of us and ISU have 1 loss we get in over them? How?

Bryceo19

7:23pm

BYU, KSU, and ISU could all be 8-1. 3-way tie.

RGGeemer

10:43am

There are special tiebreaker rules for a 3-way tie.

Doogal McCougar

2:39pm

Why would KSU get on over BYU? BYU has the head to head tie breaker over them

BackPacker

10:36am

RE: Why would KSU get on over BYU? BYU has the head to head tie breaker over

RogDog118

10:39am

That's certainly how I've understood it with what many others have been saying

BackPacker

10:42am

Head to head does not apply if not all tied teams played each other according to

RGGeemer

10:46am

That’s not how B12 rules work for a 3 way tie. Head to head won’t matter in 3 way between KSU, ISU and BYU.

yapacoug

10:41am

I think we might make it as the 2nd team in, actually. If K St wins the

RGGeemer

10:48am

I'm not sure that is the case, but could be wrong. Below is a copy of

UMWolverine

10:50am

It looks like if KSU beats ISU and we lose to someone on our schedule...

SouthernCoug

4:12pm

Not quite. K St would win the tiebreaker most likely in the 3-way, and then we

RGGeemer

4:55pm

It seems according to the rules posted, if the tied teams did not all play

SouthernCoug

5:58pm

I think we'd be in as the 2nd team after thinking through the scenarios if we

RGGeemer

10:53am

What? Why answer if you don't know. We are in if 11-1. KSU can't get in over

archie

11:34am

Head to head doesn’t apply in a multi team tie. Read the rules before you accuse someone of not knowing what they are

RealTaysomHill

11:40am

We would be in, but so would K St

RGGeemer

12:06pm

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Blue Ghost

12:59pm

I dont think that is right.

Zoobieman

2:26pm

How would we have the H2H tiebreaker with Iowa State?

RealTaysomHill

2:36pm

Because we beat the #1 team (K St) and ISU lost to them

RGGeemer

2:41pm

What RG said. . . We have the better record against the best common opponent.

Zoobieman

2:42pm

That’s not a H2H tiebreaker

RealTaysomHill

2:49pm

It's the 2-team tiebreaker, which I assume is what he meant.

RGGeemer

3:14pm

Ah. I read H2H as “head to head,” meaning what happened when we played head to head

RealTaysomHill

3:19pm

Why?

IronPotato

3:19pm

How do we know that already?

BYU '80

4:36pm

TT only has 1 loss, and we don't play them. If they win out, it could keep

LifeLongLakerFan

10:31am

TT or Cinn is not winning out. Their schedule it too difficult. Only teams

CougarTwins

10:36am

Not guaranteed, but likely

RGGeemer

10:41am

lot of "not so smarts" answering a question specifically for "smart people"

fulano

10:56am

Here are the tiebreaker scenarios for that (would be KSU vs ISU).

jreid191

10:57am

Not quite true. Your 3-way tie would play out that way and K State would win

RGGeemer

10:59am

That makes sense as well. I'm so confused. Just win baby!!!

UMWolverine

11:02am

Just read through it again and it looks like you're probably right. However, I

jreid191

1:30pm

I think you’re slightly wrong, maybe. IF we lose to Kansas or Houston, then

BYUCLA

6:08pm

Thank you. That make sense.

UMWolverine

11:01am

Yes. More teams that are 3-1 need to lose. We have a tiebreaker over KSU

Blue Ghost

12:41pm

The good news is they will. They all play each other pretty much.

RGGeemer

12:47pm

That is why we should all be Kansas St fans. Against us, it's like they have 2

Blue Ghost

1:00pm

Guarantee? No. Almost certain? Yes. More importantly, 11-1 almost guarantees CFP

NYC and Japan

2:57pm

If your name is the real Taysom Hill your already dilluisonal..... and wrong

cougarmelt

4:34pm

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