They kind of do actually. In that they are developed from the future result of the play

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Sep 29, 2024
9:46:32am

darkcoug Underperforming

They kind of do actually. In that they are developed from the future result of the play

Which would include the result of points coming from a momentum swing

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darkcoug

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utah’s early failed 4th-down conversions highlight a problem with analytics,

Japan Coug

9:43am

They kind of do actually. In that they are developed from the future result of the play

darkcoug

9:46am

I don’t think they sufficiently account for the risk of momentum swings if you

Japan Coug

9:51am

Maybe. The data is built from the average of all similar situations

darkcoug

9:57am

And that is the problem with averages, they don’t (and can’t) account for the

Japan Coug

10:45am

Yup, definitely coaching failure.

sfeuz

9:47am

4th and 2 inside your 10 means you should go for it almost always.

HarlemCoug

9:49am

Yes, that’s what the analytics say. I’m saying that a smart coach will also

Japan Coug

9:53am

If you miss the other team still has the ball with 90+ yards to go. It's very rare for teams to get 7 points on a drive

HarlemCoug

9:58am

Well, that approach definitely didn’t work for utah last night. When I saw that

Japan Coug

10:04am

Yeah it did, Arizona only got 3 points from those two drives

groy

10:14am

You have to look beyond what happened in the actual next drive, IMO, and look at

Japan Coug

10:20am

I'm very surprised my the take that Whittingham's pride lost the game for Utah

bythenumbers

10:12am

I agree with your assessment, but I also think there’s one thing not

Blue Heart

9:59am

I agree that this is a risk. But it must be balanced against the risk of failure

Japan Coug

10:07am

First one, good with it. 2nd? Kick it after failing the first time

1984coug

9:52am

Problem with analytics is, it isn’t based on a specific team. Utah’s O struggles

MustacheMan

10:10am

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