I understand your point. Yes, I agree that it had to have come into his mind

Sep 26, 2024
6:24:36am

BlueTooth All-American

And he still decided to accept the offer. Even if it was his only offer, he must have at least had some conversations with people about going to the school of a church who believes Jesus is the Messiah.

So yeah, I agree with you.

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Not sure my point, but takes a lot of guts to go to a Mormon school as a Jewish

care86

Sep 25, 10:25pm

If anything, wouldn’t it just make him more popular?

Shawarma

Sep 25, 10:27pm

It’s not that shocking he came here. BYU was his best offer. When you have one

TheMediator

Sep 25, 10:27pm

I disagree. Despite BYU’s subjective flaws it has to be the most welcoming school, fanbase and program in the country.

Zach Morris

Sep 25, 10:27pm

While I see your point, as a non member, I can tell you, it's not as welcoming

care86

Sep 25, 10:31pm

He’s also on a team with people who aren’t members.

Shawarma

Sep 25, 10:34pm

That's a very good point I hadn't considered.

care86

Sep 25, 10:35pm

Across the entirety of the human populous there are those who are very warm and welcoming, those that are neutral, those

Zach Morris

Sep 25, 10:59pm

It can be a little awkward.

Weagle Coug

4:15am

Did you attend BYU as a non-member?

NorCal_Coug

4:30am

At least he's at a school without Anti-Jew protestors. BYU is likely the safest

CharlottesvilleCoug

5:25am

My thought too when reading OP. Many schools literally rioting/ protesting Jews

NYC and Japan

7:15am

^THIS^ BYU prob many times more welcoming than a plethora of other schools

zerome4sooners

8:26am

I don't know, man. My ward is great but some people are just cold/distant 🤣

OldFogey

6:14am

Especially if skin color is important to you. My old ward in Houston had...

Les IsMore

7:50am

I don't know. I attended BYU in the 90's with some siblings.

Jacksonian76

10:44am

BYU students, like LDS in general, see non-members as conversion targets

beantownblue

7:48am

Kalani is maybe the most welcoming HC in CFB. I’m sure he figured he’d be okay

puntersarepeople

7:50am

We certainly welcome you!

Love Cougs

9:17am

I agree that being a minority at BYU

Archaea

10:19am

I don’t think anyone would go after his religion if he started sucking.

Samsonite

Sep 25, 10:28pm

Oh I agree with that... but he didn't know that.

care86

Sep 25, 10:35pm

So says you. Perhaps he did some easy research.

Les IsMore

7:51am

Why? If anything LDS very much like Jewish people and find much in common.

GfB

Sep 25, 10:29pm

I find it kind of sad that Mormons like Jews, because

Cougardinal

7:23am

Are these practicing Jews or Jewish by heritage only?

SnickSnack

8:22am

I've never met a Jew that disliked Mormons...the total opposite actually

MaximusMeridius

10:01am

Surprised to hear that.

Cougardinal

11:06am

I deal with a lot of Jewish people in my line of work

Blue Heart

11:35am

Both have a lot of people working at NASA.

Genghis Spreads

8:19am

Nah - we are much nicer than many alternatives

Spocougar

Sep 25, 10:29pm

Exactly. BYU is probably the most tolerant place for a Jew to play.

Samsonite

Sep 25, 10:31pm

I know you beleive that, but I can tell you as a non member, and the way my

care86

Sep 25, 10:34pm

FWIW, the neighbors treat the members the same.

DirtyWater

Sep 25, 10:48pm

^^^100% TRUE in my experience!^^^

JackCoog

9:27am

Sounds like you have a neighbor problem, not a Church problem. Some folks are

Fdnman

6:47am

My roommate was a practicing Presbyterian, but he managed to survive BYU.

Les IsMore

8:00am

Like many humans, many church members struggle to accept negative feedback

Tricky

9:01am

That wasn't at all what I said...I was actually agreeing with him that most

Fdnman

9:11am

I understand. I'm reacting more to other responses on here. And I do think

Tricky

9:17am

Unfortunately, your experience is not unique. I’ve heard similar experiences

NYC and Japan

7:20am

Don't ever tell the LDS you're unwelcoming or unaccepting in any way. They'll

Genghis Spreads

8:08am

My only issue with this type of conversation is the implication

LevZloi

8:48am

Ditto

Heydude32

8:40am

Easy for you to say. Put yourself in his shoes. He has my respect, that's all I

care86

Sep 25, 10:32pm

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acougfan

Sep 25, 10:43pm

Took lots of guts & wit to remain Jewish in Europe during Middle Ages, which is why only most brilliant remained Jewish

roseyscenario

Sep 25, 10:56pm

Most major public schools would be much harder for a Jewish

cougarfann888

Sep 25, 10:57pm

BYU isn’t doing free Palestine riots. He’s likely safer here than anywhere.

Mjolnir

6:39am

...and Retzlaff may end up good.

Plantagenet

Sep 25, 10:59pm

If I was an LDS athlete, I'd prefer going to a Jewish school (if there was one) or a Catholic school like Notre Dame.

Brisco

Sep 25, 11:04pm

As a a small town kid I understand his feelings that way. I struggled at first.

Les IsMore

8:08am

From my own point of view, which I know is biased and maybe not the standard….

Peterbilt

Sep 25, 11:23pm

We should be kind to all but I think your second paragraph explains your first

BYU '80

7:04am

I'm supposing BYU is much more welcoming to Jews than Colombia, Berkley, and

mexYcan

12:07am

FYI. It's Columbia University, Colombia is the country.

TheHop

5:24am

Sorry I bugged the crap out of you. How do you feel about what I was saying?

mexYcan

11:04am

Columbia University came first

Turd Ferguson

1:43pm

And I am sure they can

TheHop

1:47pm

Lots of drama for a misplaced o/u. I'm learning CB is funny that way. Ignore

mexYcan

3:27pm

RE: I'm supposing BYU is much more welcoming to Jews than Colombia, Berkley, and

longtimeYfan

8:59am

But you care if they are not attending a church?

TheHop

10:16am

I'm guessing you are stretching that implication too far. Give him the benefit

mexYcan

11:11am

Yup. I'll bet at least 95% of BYU (hopefully more) feel that same way.

mexYcan

11:06am

I like Jake but come on man, nobody is going to turn down their only offer to play power football

KYU

1:11am

RE: "..takes a lot of guts to go to a Mormon school as a Jewish." lol. Really? Tell me you haven't been paying..

greatbam

2:39am

I was gonna say at least his classmates don’t stop him from attending school lol

NonmormonYfan89

8:19am

Unless I am reading this wrong it actually show us only 15% favorable to Jews

Sport sci

8:26am

Sounds like you are reading it wrong.

Ferb

8:31am

Gotcha- I was reading it incorrect

Sport sci

9:01am

Jews were actually the most favorably viewed group, across the board, though

basman

8:52am

Yes, you are looking at it wrong.

greatbam

8:59am

My wife's roommate at BYU was a nonmember and had a fantastic experience. A lot

GMGlenn

6:17am

I understand your point. Yes, I agree that it had to have come into his mind

BlueTooth

6:24am

Lds people have been incredibly supportive of Israel. I think that reflects well

BYU '80

7:00am

My Israeli friend always says "Everybody in Israel knows that the Mormons are

AZ Coug

11:25am

I am very confused by your take….you have neighbors that don’t like you that are

ordinary tri guy

7:10am

I would say it the exact opposite. The Jews are in our Articles of Faith!

BYUHgrad

7:20am

I’ve really appreciated Jordan Petsersons perspective when it comes to slicing

Lefty24

7:35am

Not more gutsy than Fous & Khalifa attending as Muslims.

Forzaitalia

7:54am

He is paid to be there. And it is not that big of a deal at all

chismoso

8:09am

Better than going to the Unuversity of Hamas!

thegoodmeister

8:23am

You go where you think you will play regardless of school religious or

notsofast

8:41am

This is true but you can’t entirely ignore the social aspects.

Archaea

10:20am

Not really.

RedSox

9:39am

Historically Jews have been admired by our faith.

VenomFarmer

10:45am

No kidding, second witness of Christ in there cannon. Has to raise some doubt.

TJD

11:55am

On the contrary,

ninja math

4:42pm

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