I believe that 100%. I actually think Scalley will promote someone on staff.

Sep 25, 2024
9:36:49pm

Scratch All-American

But I also think that he’ll consider Hill and I think it’s silly to say there’s no way he’d go to Utah (I also think it would be silly to say he’d definitely go if offered).

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Utefan/booster friend of mine is pretty confident that Kyle and Ludwig will both

Abe Froman

Sep 25, 4:25pm

Hope they aren't the last ones laughing.

Soupie

Sep 25, 4:28pm

Delusion is strong with that one.

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 4:30pm

Losing jay Hill to Utah in this scenario is my biggest football fear.

U.E. McGill

Sep 25, 4:30pm

Hill only goes to Utah if he gets HC. DC at Utah is a lateral move.

WJCougar

Sep 25, 5:01pm

Depends on the money.

Jdoc

Sep 25, 5:10pm

Between Ryan Smith and Ensign Peak, we got this.

All-American

Sep 25, 6:35pm

Depends on $$$. Morgan Scalley's current salary is 1.4M.

OrsoNero

Sep 25, 5:11pm

They absolutely will when he’s the HC in waiting. Given the momentum of the

bigbossbyu

Sep 25, 5:12pm

He's the same age as Sitake, though. That means Sitake would have to get fired.

OrsoNero

Sep 25, 5:19pm

And how old is Morgan Scalley?

CougarScrub

Sep 25, 6:20pm

Why would you think utah would pay more than BYU for the same position?

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 6:22pm

Because they already are.

OrsoNero

Sep 25, 6:44pm

I guess you forgot that TV revenue will be the same now. smh

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 6:52pm

I don’t know if you follow cfb

hereforlaughs

Sep 25, 10:17pm

Uh....you realize you just pointed out that next year BYU and Utah...

WJCougar

Sep 25, 10:34pm

Shhhh… Math is hard….

Ungoy

Sep 25, 11:14pm

Lol

hereforlaughs

9:20am

Yeah, Hill should absolutely not be designated HC-in-waiting under a younger Sitake

krindorr

Sep 25, 7:23pm

Just pay him and give him a longer term contract than assistants typically get. Being a DC would have to be way more fun

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 8:38pm

$1.4 is a long ways off Kalani’s salary. Not sure where you’re getting your info

CPAcoug87

Sep 25, 6:48pm

Pretty sure Morgan is making $5M a yr

Cougarite

Sep 25, 9:12pm

Hill will get a head coaching job somewhere good. He's not going to Utah to be

Plantagenet

Sep 25, 10:53pm

Chris Burgess made a lateral move to Utah.

Parker Schnabel

Sep 25, 5:38pm

Hmm, where is Burgess coaching now? Oh yeah, lateral back to BYU.

valcorger

Sep 25, 5:43pm

Lateral 😂

hereforlaughs

Sep 25, 7:03pm

It isn't nearly as cut and dry as you seem to think it is.

Ungoy

Sep 25, 7:08pm

Whit had been at Utah for over a decade. Hill has been there for 2 years.

Scratch

Sep 25, 9:00pm

He also hasn’t been at Utah in 10 years. Who knows what’s changed in his mind.

Ungoy

Sep 25, 9:35pm

I believe that 100%. I actually think Scalley will promote someone on staff.

Scratch

Sep 25, 9:36pm

I never said he wouldn’t, just that it’s not so cut and dry as some would say.

Ungoy

Sep 25, 10:04pm

Bubble burster...

IceBlue

Sep 25, 8:47pm

Takes a step down

hereforlaughs

Sep 25, 10:12pm

Nah Scallywag will hire Lewis Powell as DC

threezeroeight

Sep 25, 5:24pm

Hey, Jay. How would you like to work for a younger and less proven head coach?

Art Director

Sep 25, 4:30pm

RE: Hey, Jay. How would you like to work for a younger and less proven head

Sparkling Delirium

Sep 25, 4:31pm

Unproven is better than proven to be long term mediocre.

ALUF 1990

Sep 25, 8:51pm

In this case, I think the unknown is better than what Kalani has proven.

Scratch

Sep 25, 4:43pm

RE: In this case, I think the unknown is better than what Kalani has proven.

valcorger

Sep 25, 4:49pm

Sorry, does CB love Kalani now? Sorry, I can't keep up on whether he's awesome

Scratch

Sep 25, 5:02pm

Doesn't matter. Either way his situation at BYU is better ghat going to utah.

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 5:38pm

RE: Doesn't matter. Either way his situation at BYU is better ghat going to

Scratch

Sep 25, 5:46pm

Please tell us what utah has that BYU doesn't besides lame fans.

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 6:02pm

Success? Talent? NIL $$$? No honor code? Higher paid coaches?

Scratch

Sep 25, 6:24pm

Source on the higher paid coaches?

CPAcoug87

Sep 25, 6:50pm

I guess you forgot that TV revenue will be the same now. Sorry to burst your bubble but utah football is more likely to

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 6:54pm

Scalley >>>>>>>> Sitake. Utah will be just fine.

ALUF 1990

Sep 25, 8:54pm

We'll see. You might want to check out how the coaches who follow a program's winningest coach fare but I'm sure that

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 9:15pm

RE: Scalley >>>>>>>> Sitake. Utah will be just fine.

WYC_Coug297

5:20pm

Coach envy looks good on you.

Corn Pop

Sep 25, 8:48pm

CB has hundreds of opinions

ColonelMustard

Sep 25, 7:51pm

You would think that. hahaha

ManicBlue

Sep 25, 4:49pm

Honestly, I think it's more likely that when Scalley does take over,

Ungoy

Sep 25, 4:52pm

Yep

DavisCoCoug

Sep 25, 4:56pm

Coaches that have never struck out on their own tend to struggle.

Corn Pop

Sep 25, 5:05pm

If you think that, then Hill is better off staying at BYU to become the head coach when Kalani is let go.

Atmospheric_Cougar

Sep 25, 5:52pm

If Kalani is let go then Hill's the next head coach if he's at Utah. Ironically

Scratch

Sep 25, 6:01pm

Uh....BYU hired Bronco who was the DC for Crowton.

WJCougar

Sep 25, 8:50pm

That’s why I said BYU is different.

Scratch

Sep 25, 9:02pm

What were you saying about Kyle his first couple years in the Pac 12?

Goosefrabba

Sep 25, 9:55pm

The problem is, I could see all of those things happening, minus a deep playoff

Sparkling Delirium

Sep 25, 4:31pm

Might be better than the deep playoff run being the only thing that happens

SoBlueitHurts

4:48pm

Now I really want to make a "Which is worse" poll

krindorr

4:56pm

I said "might", those both sound awful. The losing top players is terrible

SoBlueitHurts

5:29pm

I don't think losing Jay Hill to Utah temporarily is a big deal

Strawhat4life

Sep 25, 4:36pm

Wrong would be demoralizing especially if he took all his Weber St recruits

HeyU

Sep 25, 6:02pm

That's the biggest issue with losing Hill short term - the recruits that would follow him

krindorr

Sep 25, 7:19pm

Absolutely it’s possible that’s not my argument, it would be devastating to BYU

HeyU

Sep 25, 7:21pm

Agreed, which is why I disagree (w strawhat) that losing him temporarily wouldn't be that bad

krindorr

Sep 25, 7:51pm

There is no way he’ll get the same autonomy to run the defense the way he wants

deliciousmocha

Sep 25, 4:36pm

I don’t think Scalley hires Hill, but he is going to give his coordinators

NarfUte

Sep 25, 4:50pm

he promotes colton swann anyway.

riboflavin

Sep 25, 4:51pm

This^

NarfUte

Sep 25, 4:53pm

ribo sighting!

Abe Froman

Sep 25, 5:19pm

That seems like the most likely thing

Strawhat4life

Sep 25, 7:59pm

Does Jay Hill still have kids that attend BYU?

Ungoy

Sep 25, 4:39pm

BYU has more $$ than Utah

docrick

Sep 25, 4:43pm

Utah has unlimited funds by way of the tax purse. Your and my dollars, forced.

Brandoblueblood

Sep 25, 6:34pm

If they did, they wouldn't have such a crappy basketball coach

AZ Coug

Sep 25, 8:43pm

I'd stop listening to your friend...

AltTabbins

Sep 25, 4:52pm

Let's just beat them and go to the playoffs instead then.

inertiaman

Sep 25, 4:53pm

Hill is not leaving BYU to be the DC at Utah. Hill will leave for an HC job.

WJCougar

Sep 25, 5:01pm

At CC luncheon today Kalani said Jay Hill is very happy to be at BYU

Greg4BYU

Sep 25, 5:03pm

BYU is unburdened by the past

docrick

Sep 25, 5:17pm

Nobody knows what will happen. When a big program needs a head coach they will

Plantagenet

Sep 25, 10:56pm

Not at all likely. Not a good move for Hill and we have money

WallaX2

Sep 25, 5:29pm

Feels like one of those things that I would hate so much and, therefore, likely

TrustMeIKnow

Sep 25, 6:11pm

Oh it's fun to think of what they do with our tax dollars, isn't it?

Brandoblueblood

Sep 25, 6:31pm

Kyle will retire this yr. Scalley will be HC. Utah’s new DC is already on their

Forest Green

Sep 25, 7:50pm

If they made it to the playoffs, Whitt would retire. I believe that much.

Great38

Sep 25, 8:57pm

That is shaping up to be likely, unfortunately.

TheLoneCougar

Sep 25, 9:26pm

This would be a good year for BYU to defeat the Utes.

Plantagenet

Sep 25, 10:52pm

That'd mean Kalani would be able to hire his ol' pal, Tuiaki back on as DC.

BlueFever

10:55am

What benefit would Hill have? He isn’t going to make much money. He isn’t going

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