Irrespective of your opinion on that, Jimmer built his max legacy at BYU and ZW

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Apr 23, 2024
2:00:04pm

Cougarbib Truly Addicted User

Irrespective of your opinion on that, Jimmer built his max legacy at BYU and ZW

left after mixed results as a freshman and sophomore and a magical cupcake season that will be forever discounted in history and especially given NFL performance to date.

He will be remembered as a very good BYU QB - maybe exceptionally good.

He will not make BYU MT Rushmore.

Steve Young
Jim McMahon
Ty Detmer - Heisman
Robbie Bosco - NC

All kinds of room for debate who would be 5th on that list and ZW name would be in that discussion along with Sark, Max, John Beck, Taysom, Giff, Marc Wilson, Jaren Hall, Sheide, Virgil Carter, and anyone else I may have overlooked. That last group is listed in random order. I made no attempt to rank them.

My top contenders from that group somewhat ranked:

Marc Wilson
Sark
Giff
ZW
Virgil
Max
John Beck
Taysom
Jaren Hall

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Originally posted on Apr 23, 2024 at 2:00:04pm

Message modified by Cougarbib on Apr 23, 2024 at 2:07:18pm

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I don't understand the disparity in treatment on this board of Zach vs Jimmer.

Mike Bolton

Apr 23, 10:48am

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Joe Banks

Apr 23, 10:50am

Jimmer had a big fall from Grace? Jimmer was the bigger

Plato

Apr 23, 10:51am

There were lots of doubters in jimmers nba ability on here as well.

cougarfann888

Apr 23, 10:51am

Jimmer essentially won the basketball Heisman

JOPE

Apr 23, 10:52am

Ok. Makes sense. Zach did a lot too but not Jimmer level.

Mike Bolton

Apr 23, 10:55am

Jimmer is definitely more a BYU guy than Zach, love them both

GlutealGuy

Apr 23, 10:57am

There were Jimmer apologists back in the day too, saying he just needed the right chance/coach/scheme

TCuz

Apr 23, 10:58am

I think it’s really difficult to tell if Zach is a good NFL QB when our only

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 11:43am

No, it’s not hard at all unless you are trying to play pretend.

TCuz

Apr 23, 11:44am

The Broncos should probably take you on as a consultant.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:01pm

I’m sorry, you think the Broncos getting the Jets to pay half his salary and only giving a (bad) pick swap for Zach

TCuz

Apr 23, 12:04pm

The Bills just paid Mitch Trubisky $2.7m guaranteed. Do you suddenly think he must be good?

TCuz

Apr 23, 12:07pm

I think he's a decent backup QB with less potential upside than Zach.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:29pm

Do you think Geno Smith and Sam Darnold are bad QBs?

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:52pm

No, and yes. Do you think the existence of (rare) outliers means that your favorite player must also be an outlier

TCuz

Apr 23, 1:13pm

4 of the last 4 Jets QB draft picks going “bust” are rare outliers? lol

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 1:50pm

Bears last 4: Fields, Trubisky, Grossman, McCown.

TCuz

Apr 23, 2:01pm

Ok now how many of those guys went somewhere else and played good/great?

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 2:12pm

Only Baker, because that is the extremely rare outlier I was referencing above.

TCuz

Apr 23, 2:21pm

Busts are common. Busts leaving an organization and performing significantly

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 2:23pm

No, that’s not common in New Jersey either. At all.

TCuz

Apr 23, 2:27pm

I think in general we just have a different idea of which QBs are terrible

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 2:34pm

Their last QBs haven’t been great. But those same QBs haven’t been good anywhere else. Geno is the only guy who has

Apr 23, 2:02pm

Geno is great and Sam is good.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 2:16pm

What? In what world is Geno great? And if Darnold is good, why is he on his third team since he left NYJ?

Apr 23, 2:35pm

Who is comparing him to Lance, Fields, or Mac Jones?

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:17pm

They are not paying him “on par with decent to good backups”

Apr 23, 12:23pm

Maybe I'm looking at bad info. For ex, Andy Dalton shows 2.13M.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:26pm

Yeah that's old info. Thanks.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:27pm

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Apr 23, 12:28pm

The same line of thinking. If you think the Broncos’ intervening $2.75m in Zach means he must be good

TCuz

Apr 23, 12:29pm

There are 20 backup QBs that make more money than the Broncos are paying Zach

Apr 23, 12:17pm

If they didn't think he had any redeemable skill/talent, they would not have

BYUFootballisBack

Apr 23, 12:21pm

He was virtually free and he was cheap.

Apr 23, 12:27pm

Where are you seeing this?

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:22pm

Your second link. Instead of “full contract” go to “2024.”

Apr 23, 12:24pm

Yeah you're right. Thanks.

YOHONOMOTO

Apr 23, 12:27pm

I actually think the support has been the same. All we’ve heard for three years is how mismanaged the Jets are and how

Apr 23, 10:58am

I think it’s in your head

cheezedawg

Apr 23, 11:02am

It would be par for the course for me, honestly.

Mike Bolton

Apr 23, 11:04am

I'm sure Zach's immaturity is a big part of it.

BlueFever

Apr 23, 11:06am

His JS comments didn’t help either for some here

STL

Apr 23, 11:15am

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Buffalo

Apr 23, 11:12am

There is one poster here who loves to crap on QBs while claiming to be a BYU

Apr 23, 11:14am

Speaking for myself

GRCoug

Apr 23, 11:19am

“Guys, it’s like really windy out there. Come on.”

Alan Schaefer

Apr 23, 11:29am

Jimmer was 100x bigger than Wilson.

ochobeeguy

Apr 23, 11:31am

ZW left early. Jimmer came back for his senior season. Both were great for

Cougarbib

Apr 23, 11:46am

Jimmer didn't have anywhere near a good enough season to leave his junior year..

BYUFootballisBack

Apr 23, 12:12pm

Irrespective of your opinion on that, Jimmer built his max legacy at BYU and ZW

Cougarbib

Apr 23, 2:00pm

Yeah I got off track from the original OP, and agree, Zach will get a lot more

BYUFootballisBack

Apr 23, 5:14pm

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