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Apr 20, 2024
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SinkingQuffa
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So how did he just hoodwink UK, then?
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What I'm seeing right now: Mark Pope is sticking it to our Ath Dept & BOT for being so cheap w NIL over the last few yrs
SinkingQuffa
Intervention Needed
Apr 20, 6:31am
What’s happening at byu isn’t unique to byu. Look at the entire landscape.
blackandblue
Apr 20, 6:37am
I do hope you're right on that. I do think our kids were all encouraged to jump in the Portal, though
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 6:39am
And just like Pope, money and me above all else. Nothing else matters
Forbidden Fruit
Apr 20, 6:40am
Dude, he worked his butt off for us. Money is NOT his prime motivator in life. Look at his family, man.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 6:41am
Stick to your latest theory, you on to something
Forbidden Fruit
Apr 20, 6:45am
And if I am — I still have to read the situation through the lens of the post you just responded to.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 6:48am
Off topic, Saunders is gone. Lost cause. Pope disciple and he was sold hard
Forbidden Fruit
Apr 20, 6:51am
No kidding? I hate to lose Saunders. Dang.
DawgHaus
Apr 20, 6:57am
He's a tough, tough loss if true. He's the one that makes me sense a bit of vindictiveness is at play, I'll admit.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 7:00am
Vindictive or strangely desperate in case of luring Richie
Rexy Coug
Apr 20, 8:47am
Might not be too strange. UK will eat him alive if he don't produce quickly. Getting a kid
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 8:56am
I put that in the strangely desperate category. UK should pull more talent
Rexy Coug
Apr 20, 9:02am
"Strange" — because he's on the hot seat upon arrival? Yes, I agree if that's what you meant.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 9:05am
Right now Pope needs to sign someone to prime the pump & get things rolling. Tough spot.
Soupie
Apr 20, 9:02am
This is definitely not true. Yet.
PumaFanatico
Apr 20, 8:05am
Unless divine intervention happens, so yeeah
Forbidden Fruit
Apr 20, 8:22am
A winner like Pope? Are you from the future? Pope couldn't even win the WCC.
JAGA97
Apr 20, 6:54am
And our all-timer HC before him did better at that? With more tries — & in an easier WCC?
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 7:04am
Rose never finished 5/6 in consecutive years in the wcc
BYU '80
Apr 20, 7:22am
Rose never finished below 3. He had a few 2nd places. Average WCC conf ranking
Forbidden Fruit
Apr 20, 7:28am
Whoop-de-doo. Sounds like coronation material to me. Oh wait — yes, that's already happened.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 7:29am
You seem to think pope deserves coronation for much less
BYU '80
Apr 20, 7:31am
No. Just some acknowledgment as a dang good HC in his limited time. Who saved our program.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 7:33am
If UK plays D for Pope like you, I think they’ll be pretty good next year
Forbidden Fruit
Apr 20, 7:38am
Or if they just play D like Pope's teams do. Our best defensive HC since Roger Reid. Hands-down.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 7:39am
Pope and Rose are close by the numbers. 79 and 85 avg D efficiency rankings.
Forbidden Fruit
Apr 20, 7:54am
Average at best maybe even below average
kahuna
Apr 20, 11:51am
So how did he just hoodwink UK, then?
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 12:27pm
You’ve seen the joke where to tell someone they have something on their shoe
Forbidden Fruit
Apr 20, 1:27pm
That’s what a lot of people are asking. Least qualified uk hire in decades
BYU '80
Apr 20, 3:04pm
It's in part cuz people at UK — when they researched — were blown away w what he was able
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 3:16pm
And yet he still couldn’t beat an 11 seed that should’ve been a 13
BYU '80
Apr 20, 3:19pm
I was as disappointed by the loss as anyone. Their PF & PG were tough matchups, the refs called a perfectly physical
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 3:51pm
Pope should have prepared them for the physicality.
BYU '80
Apr 20, 10:54pm
RE: That’s what a lot of people are asking. Least qualified uk hire in
kahuna
Apr 20, 4:13pm
There is a reason he was there 5 choice
kahuna
Apr 20, 4:11pm
He was not a dang good coach. Zero tourney wins
BYU '80
Apr 20, 3:03pm
He made it clear his entire adult life that he was a Kentucky man
Longseason
Apr 20, 6:46am
I think you’re projecting quite a bit here. Kids from every program are
blackandblue
Apr 20, 6:42am
Actually, I wouldn't be projecting. I certainly might be over-thinking & over-imagining, though.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 6:43am
Stop with the narrative that they are kids…
cougarobgon
Apr 20, 7:32am
To that end...UK has zero players left on scholarship I believe.
runnincoug
Apr 20, 7:08am
I'm just excited for the Phoenix diamondbacks season. Also the Tucson Coyotes move to Utah
Crazy Joe Davola
Apr 20, 6:57am
Ha. It's early. Believe it or not I cheered a bit for that Marle/KJ/Chambers/Horny team back in the day
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 7:15am
The athletic dept and bot don’t control nil
BYU '80
Apr 20, 7:20am
Don't be ignorant, man. They have the control board & console entirely before them. And always have.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 7:27am
that's stupid, before it was against NCAA rules for AD to have that control,
cwilke1
Apr 20, 9:27am
It's the AD's JOB to manage the payroll that DOES make those decisions. And its the BOT that funds the AD.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 9:35am
wait so you're just falling back to a complaint about the honor code? the Royal
cwilke1
Apr 20, 9:44am
The Honor Code Office is one tool on the console of control the sits before the BOT (& their subordinates)
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 9:54am
It was the bot fault pope lied to players. Sure
BYU '80
Apr 20, 10:56pm
I don’t hate Pope, I loved him as our coach. My one and only gripe with him now
Sircumference
Apr 20, 7:28am
He's presently trying to retain/poach players. I understand (& appreciate) why he ain't thanking BYU right now.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 7:38am
I appreciate that but also see bigger time coaches than him manage being gracious to their departing school/fanbase.
Soupie
Apr 20, 8:31am
Two things: 1. Are these other poached HCs really coming off as gracious to their former fans, school & employers? 2.
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 8:36am
Yes. TH had an official statement including thanks to Pope immediately upon his departure.
Soupie
Apr 20, 8:45am
Thanx, soupie. As a fan, I appreciate that he wants to remain on the down low as he tries to steal Richie from me. 😉
SinkingQuffa
Apr 20, 8:50am
Usus coach is poaching players but still had graciousness. And only after one
BYU '80
Apr 20, 10:58pm
It’s never coming. Coaches in similar situations still have class. Pope doesn’t
BYU '80
Apr 20, 10:57pm
The issue I see is NIL is not sustainable as it is currently structured.
davidmj10
Apr 20, 8:10am
yes we all get that that is pay for play under the name of NIL. but since there
cwilke1
Apr 20, 9:29am
In basketball yes but what about football? Fans aren’t going to be able to
davidmj10
Apr 20, 10:16am
more power to you if you can find better use of your time and discretionary
cwilke1
Apr 20, 10:37am
I agree. Balance is achievable in other ways than this. I will always be a
davidmj10
Apr 20, 11:46am
If anyone takes the time like I did, it really seems like this guy is more a
Alan Schaefer
Apr 20, 12:21pm
RE: If anyone takes the time like I did, it really seems like this guy is more a
popecasse
Apr 20, 1:04pm
Pope likely desperate with player exodus. Kentucky might be BYU-lite next year
cougarnw
Apr 20, 1:15pm
That's ok cuz our AD & school administrators let the door hit Pope on his way...
icecougar
Apr 20, 1:48pm
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