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Feb 7, 2023
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Corn Pop
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I can't buy that. SDSU and SMU are not needed to get a deal done since they
don't add value to a current 10 team PAC. I can believe that the PAC has been told they can't fall to 8 teams and get a decent deal, which was the same the B12 was told.
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GK stays radio silent through this whole process, but wants you to know
CougarCanuck76
2/7/23 7:55pm
Or they need more inventory for the TV deal to be bigger and want pansies who
inertiaman
2/7/23 7:56pm
This seems more likely
threezeroeight
2/7/23 7:59pm
Right, but why keep saying expansion comes after the TV deal is done?
CougarCanuck76
2/7/23 8:00pm
Maybe the tv deal couldn't get done without expansion first
machete
2/7/23 8:02pm
This is the correct answer
inertiaman
2/7/23 8:06pm
Again, why say it loud and clear, numerous times over and over
CougarCanuck76
2/7/23 8:13pm
Sounds like something changer for sure. My guess is it was an inventory problem
machete
2/8/23 9:27am
That is my guess as well.
HuskerFan2
2/7/23 8:04pm
Except ACC contract has over a decade left on it.
Cougarbib
2/7/23 9:24pm
I can't buy that. SDSU and SMU are not needed to get a deal done since they
Corn Pop
2/7/23 8:09pm
They add value, just not equivalent value. But that still works if the PAC
inertiaman
2/7/23 8:11pm
We know their current value, and it's WAAAYYYYY below the PAC.
Corn Pop
2/7/23 8:19pm
This. What do they add to the pie? $15K?
YOHONOMOTO
2/7/23 8:41pm
No, SDSU and SMU add no value whatsoever
therock
2/7/23 8:35pm
Also a plausible explanation.
BlooCoog
2/7/23 8:12pm
Another possibility is the TV networks have told him they need expansion with
BlooCoog
2/7/23 8:01pm
Pretty confident that TV isn't impacted by the additions of SDSU and SMU
CougarCanuck76
2/7/23 8:05pm
True. Neither team moves the needle financially. Really weird that this news
BlooCoog
2/7/23 8:11pm
It's not a good look for the PAC.
Corn Pop
2/7/23 8:20pm
I don't see it either, but what other explanation is there for inviting SMU and SDSU?
HuskerFan2
2/7/23 8:18pm
Fresno and San Jose… let the utes enjoy their CA friends
coot20
2/7/23 10:19pm
I mean maybe, but no one thinks SDSU and SMU turn down the PAC
Socrates Johnson
2/7/23 8:58pm
I know everyone says markets don’t matter anymore, but they do. SDSU brings
Cougzilla
2/7/23 9:04pm
Market size matters when you are running a conference network and your team is
Socrates Johnson
2/7/23 9:13pm
I agree with all of that but it's undeniable that nearly all of the recent
Cougzilla
2/7/23 9:27pm
Utah was a long time ago now though. You could be right but if the P12 is still
Socrates Johnson
2/7/23 9:48pm
It's how big 12 leadership thought when they invited Cincinnati, BYU and UCF.
Cougzilla
2/7/23 9:53pm
I don’t think that was it; but I could be wrong.
Socrates Johnson
2/7/23 9:58pm
I don't want to split hairs here, I agree with all of that as well. But if ucf
Cougzilla
2/8/23 6:50am
Ok. Here’s the difference. SDSU has literally nothing going for it BUT market
Socrates Johnson
2/8/23 6:56am
I agree and you are literally proving my point. All these schools have to offer
Cougzilla
2/8/23 7:51am
I was under the impression we were discussing whether the B12 used the same
Socrates Johnson
2/8/23 7:53am
Yes the schools the big 12 invited offered more than just markets, but
Cougzilla
2/8/23 8:08am
Utah benefited from the 12 team rule. Keep in mind, the PAC made one last ditch
Corn Pop
2/7/23 10:01pm
That's true but if markets didn't matter what add Utah specifically?
Cougzilla
2/8/23 7:56am
I feel like we're talking in circles. Nobody is saying those things don't
Corn Pop
2/8/23 8:17am
Every post responding to my original post says markets don't matter anymore.
Cougzilla
2/8/23 8:47am
Stating that Rutgers being geographically located in the NYC market would not
Corn Pop
2/8/23 9:00am
How do you know Rutgers wouldnt be considered? SMU is currently being considered
Cougzilla
2/8/23 9:19am
Yes, the PAC is desperate. The B10 is not. The B10 won't even invite UO and UW
Corn Pop
2/8/23 9:27am
That was true when people paid cable subscriptions and channel owners
Corn Pop
2/7/23 9:19pm
Back to my original post, I know everyone says that, but they are still looking
Cougzilla
2/7/23 9:30pm
We know that the B12 was told 8 teams wasn't enough, that they had to have more
Corn Pop
2/7/23 9:43pm
I agree but my point still stands. They are expanding with these 2 schools to
Cougzilla
2/7/23 9:46pm
It is weird that they would choose SDSU and SMU over Boise however.
Socrates Johnson
2/7/23 9:49pm
I live in San Diego and the support for SDSU is almost 0 here.
SausageKing
2/7/23 9:22pm
It's an investment in a large market. SDSU with P5 resources and good leadership
Cougzilla
2/7/23 9:32pm
Oh yeah, and SDSU and TCU ensured that the Mtn. was on basic tier cable back in
Six Foot Seven
2/7/23 9:24pm
Just 2 huge markets and more inventory.... Doesn't make it a good move though.
Cougzilla
2/7/23 9:33pm
But the people in San Diego don't care about the Aztecs
davidsonlaw
2/7/23 9:45pm
It's an investment.
Cougzilla
2/7/23 9:49pm
That’s a lot of conjecture…
Refugee
2/7/23 9:08pm
Oh, it is almost nothing but conjecture
HuskerFan2
2/7/23 9:19pm
Reality is Big12 takes most of the PAC schools, up to 4-6, anytime. No rush for
NYC and Japan
2/7/23 9:25pm
IF the PAC adds two schools at some point, I think PERCEPTION may
Happy As Larry
2/7/23 10:45pm
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