There was a drop off in LDS talent for a few years towards the end of Rose's era

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Jan 25, 2023
12:30:59am

icecougar Truly Addicted User

...kind of made it difficult to build that base.

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My view of Mark Pope's tenure, trajectory, and where we are today. First, IMO,

gwalker

1/24/23 4:25pm

All possible. But his continual late game rotations and collapses to losses suck

TeeKaa

1/24/23 4:33pm

Don't get me wrong. I have some issues. Rarely using timeouts to blunt an

gwalker

1/24/23 4:36pm

Also, I suspect Coach Pope's "NBA" mentality toward the portal will cool and we

gwalker

1/24/23 4:38pm

If Knight for Harding had been a deal I'd have been for it. It wasn't, though.

SinkingQuffa

1/24/23 5:17pm

Seriously? Coincidence that we dropped CH & picked up SK; dropped Lowell & pickd

BYU'01

1/24/23 8:00pm

None of those transactions were done simultaneous or directly consequential

SinkingQuffa

1/24/23 8:16pm

One is asked to leave & his roster spot is taken by another. How many times

BYU'01

1/24/23 8:24pm

When one dot is on page 2 & the other one is on page 29 — probably not supposed

SinkingQuffa

1/24/23 9:00pm

Great analogy, page 2 vs 29 - both playing the same position, in same season

BYU'01

1/24/23 10:48pm

And one was released following an often career-ending injury — OVER a year

SinkingQuffa

1/25/23 12:21pm

Lowell and Waterman are very different types of players..

icecougar

1/25/23 12:25am

That seems to be true. Lowell has surely never handled the ball as well as Noah

SinkingQuffa

1/25/23 12:31am

He was more mobile then, and crafty.

icecougar

1/25/23 9:27am

Two 6’10” Jrs, one w/ 3PG% of 37% the other 39%; 1 has a much higher TO rate

BYU'01

1/25/23 9:34pm

We didn't drop Lowell and pick up Waterman..

icecougar

1/25/23 12:22am

The lack of timeout usage to change momentum is a head scratcher.

Big Daddy D

1/24/23 4:45pm

This was a problem with Dave Rose also

Hinta

1/24/23 5:04pm

Also - inbounds plays. Please Pope, get a handle on this. It has lost us at least one game. No excuse.

lightmann

1/24/23 4:50pm

Agree 1000%

TeeKaa

1/24/23 5:04pm

I think late game rotations is about inconsistency. One game someone in a late

Coach's Dad

1/24/23 5:13pm

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HighHorse

1/24/23 5:44pm

Young team. Inexperienced with closing out tight games...

icecougar

1/25/23 12:19am

A couple thoughts:

The Y's Insider

1/24/23 5:03pm

I agree with 1-3 (and 4 except the insulting part). 5 seems to contradict 2,

gwalker

1/24/23 5:08pm

RE: I agree with 1-3 (and 4 except the insulting part). 5 seems to contradict 2,

The Y's Insider

1/24/23 5:14pm

#1 is very true. #2 I'm not sure given the current environment with transferring

Coach's Dad

1/24/23 5:16pm

What was that best Locker Room stuff? Like the Law of Attraction, MLM conferenc

calvindyer

1/24/23 5:26pm

#1 seems to be the conviction on CB, but I don’t think a deep run was so certain

Bandit

1/24/23 5:47pm

Yep losing to SMC does not say deep tourney run. Maybe one win

johnnybyu

1/24/23 5:48pm

Maybe we were overrated, but we were still poised for a high seed...

The Y's Insider

1/24/23 5:57pm

I have to call bull on that. The Saint Mary’s team was a lock to make the

gwalker

1/24/23 6:19pm

After the first round they would all be more talented than SMC. BYU would have

johnnybyu

1/24/23 6:33pm

Most the analyses overlook one basic point in defending popes results. Byu plays

BYU '80

1/24/23 5:32pm

Very nice write up.

HighHorse

1/24/23 5:44pm

He hasn't shown to me that he is a very good coach.

Grock

1/24/23 6:07pm

Things I would like to hear myself say more often:

coug92

1/24/23 6:58pm

Rebuild should not take so long and especially in today’s world - portal.

Cougarbib

1/24/23 9:51pm

There was a drop off in LDS talent for a few years towards the end of Rose's era

icecougar

1/25/23 12:30am

Yet, there are players from that base playing elsewhere.

Cougarbib

1/25/23 7:28am

Brandon Carlson would be a huge difference maker on this BYU team...

icecougar

1/25/23 9:25am

enjoyed the discussion in this thread,

Cougsvt

1/24/23 10:54pm

NIL and the honor code. Unless we step up and pay out for players

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