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Jan 24, 2023
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ordinary tri guy
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I don't hire devs...I listen to HR Directors tell me first hand what they dealt
With during COVID.
Again, these are some of the top companies in the world. Deloitte, PwC, Disney and others.
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Having worked in SAAS for the better part of 15 years, I think there is a lot of blame to go around with the current
P-Boy Squad
All-American
1/23/23 6:02pm
The job hopping is interesting. I’ve been told “2 years is too long”.
letthewookieewin
1/23/23 6:04pm
Really? Never heard that. I’ve been at SaaS place for 5+ years
bruincoug
1/23/23 6:07pm
That definitely doesn't look bad.
JoeExotic
1/23/23 6:11pm
Yeah. I look for it when hiring. I get turned off by the short stays because likely means they'll be a headache.
P-Boy Squad
1/23/23 6:16pm
And they will shortly jump from you. Why invest in the development just to have
ordinary tri guy
1/23/23 6:18pm
If you know any SaaS shops looking for a GC, I’d be open to talk.
bruincoug
1/23/23 6:19pm
Funny enough we might be looking for one. Let me ask our CLO and I'll BM you.
P-Boy Squad
1/23/23 6:20pm
Great. Thx.
bruincoug
1/23/23 6:21pm
I was at a Fortune 500 SAAS for nearly 9 years
CougarCanuck76
1/23/23 6:16pm
I hear that from some kids fresh out of college…they are wrong
UVCoug
1/23/23 6:28pm
It’s a pretty common strategy for software developers to increase total compensation. Not saying I agree with it
letthewookieewin
1/23/23 6:33pm
2008 coming to a neighborhood near you. They haven’t had to go through rough
Nat Gas Man
1/23/23 6:34pm
Yeah, Job Hopping is a problem in my area...
Xenon
1/23/23 6:47pm
My wife was helping a recruiting firm find candidates and they purposely had her filter out people who were job hoppers.
greatbam
1/24/23 3:11pm
good thoughts
CougarBuddy
1/23/23 6:06pm
You've identified several problems that
Archaea
1/23/23 6:07pm
It amazes me how people can get high level jobs with resumes that basically say
DiamondMo
1/23/23 6:13pm
Employment now is so transitory.
Archaea
1/23/23 6:13pm
Sounds similar to peoples outlook on dating and marriage.
SnickSnack
1/23/23 6:15pm
Companies keep hiring and giving big pay raises to outside talent instead of
Mitty
1/24/23 3:07pm
One other factor is the massive amount of capital that has come out of the
Nat Gas Man
1/23/23 6:14pm
Probably depends on the industry you work in. I worked for my previous employer
SnickSnack
1/23/23 6:16pm
I’m at a SaaS company with almost no perks, but lots of long-term employees
cougarmeister
1/23/23 6:18pm
Funny thing is the money really hasn’t dried up for a lot of the companies
Tare
1/23/23 6:26pm
Plus big tech is still buying companies and paying exec bonuses.
mottman
1/23/23 7:13pm
Labor isn’t organized. Were employees supposed to turn those things down en
VenturaCoug
1/23/23 6:26pm
I don’t really understand the argument you’re making. Employees should decline higher pay & benefits today because they
Odysseus
1/23/23 6:32pm
I hate the interview process so much though.
VACOUGFAN
1/23/23 6:36pm
My experience in SAAS: People everywhere, and maybe 25% of them do useful things
dYrtbYkerYder
1/23/23 7:05pm
But not everyone is was guilty of this. I’ve been with my company for 10 years.
BYU Grounds
1/23/23 7:35pm
Nonsense, it’s up to the company to decide what a position is worth
boyblue
1/23/23 8:22pm
Very well said! Poorly run business falls squarely on the shoulders of those
RisinUp
1/23/23 8:33pm
Some truth, but Covid out things over the top and employees haven’t been willing
Incentivize
1/23/23 11:09pm
Spoken like a person who isn't in tune with market dynamics during COVID years
ordinary tri guy
1/24/23 3:38am
It’s been 3 months since I last hired a dev, how long for you?
boyblue
1/24/23 9:24am
I don't hire devs...I listen to HR Directors tell me first hand what they dealt
ordinary tri guy
1/24/23 9:31am
cool, cool. Well, it will be super easy to verify
boyblue
1/24/23 9:45am
LOL the employees are at fault = the dog ate my homework.
Mitty
1/24/23 3:05pm
Well said, very much agree!!
Lefty24
1/24/23 9:59pm
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