He still tried to rationalize it... just call the spade a spade... our 3rd down defense sucks...

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Oct 11, 2021
3:55:26pm

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He still tried to rationalize it... just call the spade a spade... our 3rd down defense sucks...

I'm tired of the mentality that we have to try and find the positive spin on things... no it sucks. The only way it gets better and improves is to recognize that it sucks.... stop providing the justification of some positive spin for the sake of trying to be positive. That's what bothered me about Nelson's comment.

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RE: BYU is averaging 10.3 possessions per game. 10.5 w/o the fumbled kickoff.

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

10/11/21 2:34pm

Thank you tuaki.

Briguy

10/11/21 2:35pm

What are our opponents averaging? How much does the number matter if both teams

shoganai

10/11/21 2:38pm

Opponents average 10.6

rad dawg

10/11/21 2:42pm

Obviously number of possessions should be close, but of more interest would be

ManicBlue

10/11/21 4:31pm

There are a ton of different ways to slice it. Ultimately the only one that

shoganai

10/11/21 5:18pm

Yes ultimately that's the case but other stats could show weaknesses.

ManicBlue

10/11/21 5:29pm

But according to Riley Nelson, our defensive strategy for allowing teams to pick up 3rd and Long...

Coug

10/11/21 2:40pm

That's a blatant misrepresentation of what he said. I listened to exactly what he said on that show.

Indy Coug

10/11/21 2:52pm

Anyone that tries to rationalize what is happening on the defense ...

Coug

10/11/21 3:08pm

Third down defense hasn't been good, but that doesn't mean it's OK to misrepresent what Riley Nelson said.

Indy Coug

10/11/21 3:20pm

He still tried to rationalize it... just call the spade a spade... our 3rd down defense sucks...

Coug

10/11/21 3:55pm

3rd and long, “we’ve got them right where they want us”. That’s what we say every time right before they pickup the 1st.

valcorger

10/11/21 7:04pm

So do you want to be above average or below average?

byubyu

10/11/21 2:40pm

I don't see how it's relevant either way unless your opponents are getting more

shoganai

10/11/21 2:41pm

Do you think you have a better chance at scoring with more possessions?

byubyu

10/11/21 2:44pm

But you have to apply that equally both ways.

shoganai

10/11/21 2:47pm

Like I said: If someone is confident in the defense, then the amount of

byubyu

10/11/21 2:52pm

Isn't our offense ahead of our defense is nearly every efficiency measure?

shoganai

10/11/21 2:54pm

…which will result in more possessions for the opponent as well.

NewMexiCoug

10/11/21 7:39pm

Low scoring games are an advantage to the underdog team.

mudpupper

10/11/21 2:45pm

That's probably technically true in general, but I doubt the effect is that big

shoganai

10/11/21 2:49pm

This is true. It allows BYU to stay closer to more talented teams.

Blue Cat

10/11/21 2:49pm

GFGH seems to have its own drawbacks. The OP is just providing the average as a point of comparison.

Indy Coug

10/11/21 2:53pm

Now do 3 and outs. All “possessions” are not the same.

pilot17

10/11/21 3:28pm

Why don't you do 3 and outs. Just link to this thread.

Indy Coug

10/11/21 3:53pm

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