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davidsonlaw
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I would support UA/ASU/Washington/WSU or even Colorado
But I would not want Utah in the Big12.
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This is what actually came from the Big 12 via AD from TTech…
Samurai Jack
9/27/21 1:38am
If USC UCLA Oregon and Washington all left
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 5:37am
Disagree.
DJROSS
9/27/21 5:55am
Not even close. It's the P12 woke culture that's killing their conference
Bo Dagget
9/27/21 6:14am
You can keep telling yourself that but it doesn’t make it true
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 6:53am
If you think it's academic prowess that gives Stan and Cal the upper hand
Bo Dagget
9/27/21 6:59am
I'm going with out of touch.... academic prowess means nothing vs. tv revenue
wilsdad
9/27/21 7:22am
There is a lot more than just that
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 8:21am
Well, you got me there
Bo Dagget
9/27/21 8:35am
It's true. When the BIG12 schools see all that money coming in from the EAPN
Jacksonian76
9/27/21 7:14am
The proof is in the pudding. The entire athletic participation in California
DJROSS
9/27/21 7:27am
Interesting thoughts (about education in general, not necessarily the athletic
kos
9/27/21 7:53am
Hiring based on ability? LOL!!! Hardly. They are hiring as much cheap foreign...
CougarThug
9/27/21 8:43am
I'm not talking baseline. I'm talking about where will define the future.
DJROSS
9/27/21 8:54am
I think what you say is largely true and will eventually happen.
MetaLearner
9/27/21 9:47am
You may be right. I have a tendency to be rather early in observing trends.
DJROSS
9/27/21 6:42pm
Have you watched P12 games recently? If you have, you are mostly alone. Academics don't sell tickets to football games,
zonacougar
9/27/21 11:16am
Just because they named themselves "the conference of champions" and repeat it.
hydrocoug
9/27/21 11:23am
I’m not a Pac-12 fan, but they are the conference of Olympic Sport champions. Especially if you count Olympic champions
Fallball
9/27/21 12:29pm
Total National Championships:
BYUDM93
9/27/21 2:00pm
How many in football, because that is what will drive conference affiliation?
hydrocoug
9/27/21 2:03pm
The last time the Pac12 had an outright National Championship in football was 1972.
Rise Against
9/27/21 2:11pm
But you were simply mocking them for calling themselves the "Conference of
kos
9/27/21 2:14pm
Thank you, and agreed in full
BYUDM93
9/27/21 2:25pm
In context of this thread, I mocked them for their claim.
hydrocoug
9/27/21 3:08pm
I could compile conference comparison stats if you'd like, but felt it
BYUDM93
9/27/21 3:43pm
Thanks for the doc. I can look through it.
hydrocoug
9/27/21 4:12pm
Great question, and leads to a major (discovered) DISCLAIMER:
BYUDM93
9/27/21 2:24pm
To actually answer your question, "How many in football?":
BYUDM93
9/27/21 3:11pm
Thanks for putting all these stats together.
hydrocoug
9/27/21 3:37pm
Except that USC's National Championships in the 2000's no longer count...
moknowssports
9/27/21 4:52pm
Go look up who the AP has listed as National Champs in 03 and 04
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 5:01pm
NCAA has 2004 *'d (vacated) on this part of their site. But not 2003.
BYUDM93
9/27/21 5:18pm
The NCAA doesn’t even award an FBS championship
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 5:48pm
yeah - seems like a desperate, pathetic attempt by the NCAA to insert itself -
BYUDM93
9/27/21 6:13pm
I wouldn’t be shocked to find out the page was made solely for that reason
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 6:21pm
Yeah. But I've never put much stock into 'vacation' of wins and championships.
BYUDM93
9/27/21 5:13pm
In water polo and chair stacking but not in football which is what is driving
VACOUGFAN
9/27/21 2:13pm
Seems to me it would be the other way around here!
moknowssports
9/27/21 7:45am
If those schools left, it would be because of a terrible TV contract. You think
SLIVER
9/27/21 8:24am
A terrible TV contract for the PAC would be better than what the Big 12 is going
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 10:25am
We'll see. Impossible to tell now, but there are a lot of people less confident
SLIVER
9/27/21 11:13am
Who would be pining for the good old days of Neuheisel at UCLA?
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 2:50pm
Wut?
BamaCoug
9/27/21 8:40am
Strike that. Reverse it.
HONOMO
9/27/21 8:46am
This must be trolling. It would be all about the money. And in that scenario
Cougar TD
9/27/21 9:12am
I highly doubt it. The schools people care about are in relatively small markets
Charles Darwin
9/27/21 10:26am
Hmmm . . . It sounds more likely to me that the 8 left overs from the PAC 1.2
Iron Coug
9/27/21 9:12am
The days of academics controlling conference affiliation are rapidly ending. It
DirtyWater
9/27/21 11:11am
Ouch
DJROSS
9/27/21 11:22am
You're right for anything not in the hard sciences or professional degrees
MetaLearner
9/27/21 11:35am
However those grants come from governments.
hydrocoug
9/27/21 11:44am
I hope so but I'm not so sure.
MetaLearner
9/27/21 12:05pm
I would support UA/ASU/Washington/WSU or even Colorado
davidsonlaw
9/27/21 9:00am
I think the most likely teams to go to the B1G if it happens are
Samurai Jack
9/27/21 9:20am
Basketball would be the reason to include Arizona
davidsonlaw
9/27/21 11:08am
If the Big Ten takes just 2 and the Big XII only takes 4, no chance Utah gets in
moknowssports
9/27/21 9:49am
If the B1G only takes two, it would probably not be enough to
Samurai Jack
9/27/21 9:52am
Would Pac stay at 10 then? Money would be greater in the Big XII and there's no
moknowssports
9/27/21 10:05am
Not sure money is greater in Big 12 if only USC and Oregon leave…
Samurai Jack
9/27/21 8:21pm
The PAC would then add SDSU, Boise, Nevada, UNLV, USU
davidsonlaw
9/27/21 11:10am
Please, Universe! Make this happen!
moknowssports
9/27/21 11:42am
Is 16 teams the 'magic' conference size? Or would the B1G consider more?
BYUDM93
9/27/21 9:01am
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