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Apr 30, 2021
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russkiejedi
Intervention Needed
Can they demonstrate that they had measures in place to prevent this kind of
abuse? They have a duty as company officers to prevent conduct like this. If not a legal one, they have a moral and fiduciary one.
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How does Todd Pedersen and Vivint execs avoid jail time for this?
YNWA
4/30/21 1:58pm
Oh man. That’s slimy. But not shocking for the Vivint bros.
Squirt
4/30/21 2:00pm
Because when you walk into a meeting with your hat tilted to the side, you can
pink22
4/30/21 2:00pm
Doubt Todd knew personally
byukarl
4/30/21 2:01pm
He probably should've done Undercover Boss a few more times
braddahmike
4/30/21 2:08pm
Leadership (or lack thereof) comes from the top.
beatnik
4/30/21 2:09pm
Sometimes with lawsuits like this the action and corrective behavior took place
byukarl
4/30/21 2:10pm
Article says it happened 2016-2019
YNWA
4/30/21 2:13pm
Well the Flex Pay option didn't exist until 2017
byukarl
4/30/21 2:25pm
Todd 100% knew. It was specific reps that were fired and hired back. One of them
Nuke
4/30/21 2:29pm
Yep. byukarl needs to go read the complaint. I don't know it its all true but if
Mikey
4/30/21 2:32pm
Shady sales tactics has been Vivint's MO since they were Apex Alarm. I know
CougarTailDevourer
4/30/21 6:21pm
Can TNT get some of that money?
TNT
4/30/21 2:01pm
That whole industry--home security, solar, pest control sales--is slimey.
Turnpike Lane
4/30/21 2:02pm
Are all those former Mormon missionaries complicit then? Because that’s a lot
pink22
4/30/21 2:07pm
Yes.
Richard McCoy Jr.
4/30/21 2:08pm
Turns out a lot of people don't really care what they are doing if it makes them
BYUFootballisBack
4/30/21 2:08pm
No, it's no longer just LDS missionaries
byukarl
4/30/21 2:12pm
As was the mortgage/ real estate industry not 10 years ago
byukarl
4/30/21 2:15pm
Friend of mine used to sell pest in the summers right after high school
fredetteaboutit13
4/30/21 3:34pm
RE: How does Todd Pedersen and Vivint execs avoid jail time for this?
zonacougar
4/30/21 2:03pm
A few friends have had big issues with Vivint, including one who signed up for
rivercitycoug
4/30/21 2:03pm
Now that is something.
pink22
4/30/21 2:05pm
That's why you always have two systems. My solution though is to not have
rcbyufan
4/30/21 2:09pm
I hired a number of vivint employees over the years for sales roles. Sales ethics seemed to be a pretty new concept to
Pimpin4Paradise
4/30/21 2:06pm
not a good look for a bunch of LDS dudes who obviously know better
Mayor of Cougartown
4/30/21 2:12pm
Copy of the complaint.
Richard McCoy Jr.
4/30/21 2:14pm
ahh Vivint used to be Apex right?
v1k0u6
4/30/21 2:16pm
APX; but, yeah. Same company.
Narfin'Coug
4/30/21 2:38pm
Apex —> apx—> vivint
maxpowers
4/30/21 2:46pm
I don't like the "hard-sell", but don't find it really unethical either
Incentivize
4/30/21 2:16pm
Many of those Utah based home security companies have extremely shady business
Ozymandias
4/30/21 2:16pm
Most DTH companies have shady business practices.. I'd never buy from a guy off
byukarl
4/30/21 2:27pm
Guys got news for you...this is pretty common in almost every business where..
ordinary tri guy
4/30/21 2:33pm
message boards like this always have some ex employees or people who don't like
byukarl
4/30/21 2:38pm
Yea, I heard nothing but good things about him as well. But I would agree that
ordinary tri guy
4/30/21 2:44pm
The door to door teams more so then anyone here in Utah county
byukarl
4/30/21 2:50pm
Read the complaint. Corporate is not clean in this. They knew, fired them...
Richard McCoy Jr.
4/30/21 2:59pm
Todd is a great guy but some of his employees aren’t but I do think he
Nuke
4/30/21 2:48pm
Nobody wants to talk about the young boy he killed. Gave a
Stev_ie
4/30/21 3:14pm
This is a dumb post. I assume you’re talking about the kid he accidentally
Nuke
4/30/21 3:22pm
Vivint employee? He gave the speech. Get over it.
Stev_ie
4/30/21 3:28pm
Or jazz fan? LOL
Stev_ie
4/30/21 3:28pm
Both, but not sure if what that has to do with anything.
Nuke
4/30/21 4:03pm
I'm as skeptical as the next guy about Pedersen, but this is just a hit job post
Jennerstein
4/30/21 3:24pm
No I didn't. Get over it.
Stev_ie
4/30/21 3:29pm
Seems you're the one that needs to get over it. brah.
Turnpike Lane
4/30/21 3:44pm
Tire aybe you should ask him how many women he assaulted in his 20s
Stev_ie
4/30/21 3:55pm
Care to expound on this?
Malathion
4/30/21 4:03pm
Maybe if people want to talk about it, they should do so in at least something
russkiejedi
4/30/21 3:41pm
I just checked and it looks like Mr Bitterman is an available board name. YWIA.
crazY
4/30/21 5:48pm
Pretty hard to prove they knew and condoned
jkccoug
4/30/21 3:30pm
Can they demonstrate that they had measures in place to prevent this kind of
russkiejedi
4/30/21 4:05pm
All good questions. That's something they should have but it isn't unusual
jkccoug
4/30/21 5:07pm
How do you terminate those sales guys, send them to work for the sister company
YNWA
4/30/21 4:29pm
Who terminated them? Who rehired?
jkccoug
4/30/21 7:10pm
haha.. you don't work at a large company then I guess
byukarl
5/1/21 11:23am
Very few federal agencies can prosecute people criminally. They settled a civil suit with the FTC. they
vegasnative
5/1/21 3:14am
So what department did you work in YNWA and why the bitterness?
byukarl
5/1/21 11:20am
LOL, I read the article I posted as it's a local company many on the board are
YNWA
5/3/21 11:29am
Did you ever work for vivint? or one of the others?
boogers
5/3/21 11:57am
I did. I quit during training. I still remember the training manager telling us
CougarTailDevourer
5/3/21 12:27pm
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