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May 26, 2020
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RockyBalboa
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Not too young and don't mistake my opinion for believing Tyson would beat Ali
That said, later on in his career Ali was absolutely beatable, as was proven.
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Been watching Ali fights. Am I wrong to think Tyson would destroy Ali?
SlantRoute
Original Gangster
5/25/20 4:36pm
Ali was too fast. Tyson had power, and good speed, but Ali
ayfan
5/25/20 4:40pm
Tyson was very fast. I think boxing evolved between the time of Ali and Tyson
SlantRoute
5/25/20 7:54pm
I'd argue that boxing regressed then.Tyson beat up a bunch of nobodies until he
Forzaitalia
5/25/20 9:12pm
I was a big Tyson fan but I have to agree. Ali's quickness and reach would be
AZ Coug
5/25/20 10:10pm
He’d have to catch him to land one and I doubt he could catch him.
CoachSpeak
5/25/20 4:44pm
Ali was a total package type boxer. His movement was great and he could punch
CougsBeatU
5/25/20 4:44pm
Tyson's movement was extremely good too.
5thNephi
5/25/20 8:55pm
I agree. That is one thing that puts him significantly higher
CougsBeatU
5/25/20 10:36pm
In the late 90s, yes. He didn't have too many distance fights 86-91, but he
5thNephi
5/25/20 10:48pm
Tyson is a similar fighter to Sonny Liston. A great fighter who Ali destroyed
ayfan
5/25/20 4:46pm
Tyson was MUCH faster than Liston. He was quite a bit smaller with much shorter
5thNephi
5/25/20 4:58pm
Lol! Tyson never beat anyone of consequence. He was
Jdoc
5/25/20 6:48pm
You didn't know 80s boxing. Evander couldn't even compete
5thNephi
5/25/20 6:55pm
Clearly you don’t know 80’s boxing. Holyfield didn’t even become a heavyweight
Jdoc
5/25/20 7:03pm
Isn't that what I said — Evander couldn't even compete as a heavyweight then?
5thNephi
5/25/20 7:47pm
I loved watching Tyson amd was devastated when he lost to Douglas.
Jdoc
5/25/20 8:08pm
It would've been a great fight, no doubt. The Tyson who got beat by
5thNephi
5/25/20 8:15pm
Frazier was an even better example of what Tyson could have become
bluelands
5/25/20 5:57pm
But boxing and baseball were the only pro sorts at the time
bluelands
5/25/20 7:28pm
Yes.
Everyman
5/25/20 4:51pm
I've done some reading on this recently. Seems like a lot of experts think
Cougarmayn
5/25/20 4:52pm
This conversation comes up quite frequently in boxing circles.
CougsBeatU
5/25/20 5:13pm
The MJ vs. Lebron debate of boxing.
Carnac
5/25/20 4:55pm
Except Tyson isn't any kind of consensus #2
bluelands
5/25/20 5:40pm
I actually agree. That rope a dope wouldn't work on iron Mike
Blueto
5/25/20 5:00pm
I watched Ali as a kid. Ali would have won. Ali could take a punch better than
Forzaitalia
5/25/20 5:00pm
He could take em in the short-run, anyways.
5thNephi
5/25/20 5:20pm
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lightmann
5/25/20 11:21pm
Amen on Ali being fearless. It was built in to his mental make up.
lightmann
5/25/20 10:55pm
If both were in their absolute prime, it would be an interesting fight. Ali was slippery and it would be hard for Tyson
slappy
5/25/20 5:24pm
Not a chance rope a dope works on Tyson.
EtTuKalante
5/25/20 5:36pm
RE: Not a chance rope a dope works on Tyson.
Hank Rearden
5/25/20 5:42pm
Tyson was already bored by that point.
EtTuKalante
5/25/20 6:06pm
Ali used rope a dope in his 30s when past his prime. The young Ali was a stick
Forzaitalia
5/25/20 5:57pm
When he was bored. See my post above.
EtTuKalante
5/25/20 6:09pm
Young Foreman was not NEARLY as skilled a fighter as a young Tyson.
5thNephi
5/25/20 6:22pm
Foreman was every bit the hard puncher Tyson was. At age 45 and overweight
Forzaitalia
5/25/20 9:04pm
Foreman was also an awkward stiff in the 70s — who very well nearly dominated
5thNephi
5/25/20 9:25pm
Skilled, not power. You missed his point.
EtTuKalante
5/25/20 9:55pm
One of Ali’s greatest strengths was his endurance. Rope-a-dope was a mental game
lightmann
5/25/20 11:36pm
Couldn’t be more wrong. You did see what Evander Holyfield did to Tyson, right?
Hank Rearden
5/25/20 5:40pm
In the late 90s, yes. Mike was not the same fighter he was as a younger guy.
5thNephi
5/25/20 6:33pm
Mmmm. A 23/24 year old Tyson in his prime got k-oed by a mediocre Douglas
Forzaitalia
5/25/20 8:59pm
It was a bad performance by Mike, no question. You act as if Ali was untouchable
5thNephi
5/25/20 9:12pm
Tyson seemed invincible until Buster Douglas. Could Ali beat Buster Douglas?
buckeyecougarguy
5/25/20 5:53pm
Playing the same game - I don't see how Tyson struggles w Frazier. Easy KO.
5thNephi
5/25/20 6:15pm
Tyson was so dominating before Givens and cocaine. But even he agrees that Ali
Sid Vicious
5/25/20 5:56pm
Mike's very gracious these days.
5thNephi
5/25/20 6:18pm
Tyson was always a huge boxing history buff
bluelands
5/25/20 6:37pm
Saw a documentary on Dempsey recently
5thNephi
5/25/20 6:40pm
Because of Cus.
EtTuKalante
5/25/20 10:00pm
Tyson would have to get inside on Ali . . . Good luck
LakeshowCougs
5/25/20 6:07pm
Strong case for Ali.
AF Cougar
5/25/20 6:10pm
Tyson would have an extremely difficult time even getting to Ali due to Ali’s
Jdoc
5/25/20 6:45pm
You are correct. Pre-prison Tyson was the greatest fighter of all time. I was a
DoseOfReality
5/25/20 6:46pm
Who did Tyson beat that was any good? Nobody.
Jdoc
5/25/20 7:12pm
There is nobody from his era in the top 50 other than Holyfield
bluelands
5/25/20 8:01pm
Because Tyson ended them.
DoseOfReality
5/26/20 9:23am
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d-coug
5/25/20 6:50pm
Different eras for sure. Ali fought in a time with much better boxers. But
PJMort
5/25/20 7:08pm
Tyson in round 1 - easily.
Choke
5/25/20 7:16pm
The young Tyson could take Ali out in the first round or two, but if Ali gets
Beetdiggercoug
5/25/20 7:28pm
Ali was too fast his ears would could not be bitten
baldcoug74
5/25/20 7:35pm
Ali is like a much better Buster Douglas, his speed, length and technique would
CougarTailDevourer
5/25/20 7:42pm
Prime vs. Prime. Tyson 9 out of 10.
Diablo and Doc
5/25/20 8:08pm
Not a chance.
Forzaitalia
5/25/20 8:30pm
People forget how Terrifying/dominating Tyson was
RockyBalboa
5/25/20 8:30pm
You're probably too young to remember that Sonny Liston was feared like Tyson
Forzaitalia
5/25/20 8:43pm
LOL. How old are you that you watched Liston fight? And Liston was accused of
Sid Vicious
5/25/20 11:13pm
Compared to Liston, Tyson was a choirboy....
AF Cougar
5/25/20 11:51pm
Not too young and don't mistake my opinion for believing Tyson would beat Ali
RockyBalboa
5/26/20 7:13am
Tyson was a lot younger when Douglas and Holyfield trounced him than when
Forzaitalia
5/25/20 9:23pm
No way. Tyson in his 20's was lightning quick and had great defense and a
CougarTailDevourer
5/26/20 9:30am
The ONLY man to ever trounce Tyson was Lennox. And Tyson was clearly
5thNephi
5/26/20 12:08pm
Ok, my opinion may be extreme. Maybe Tyson doesn’t destroy him. That’s a bit over the top. But i think Tyson wins.
SlantRoute
5/25/20 9:05pm
Ali - incredibly fast punches and evasive movement, especially his back pedaling. He was so very hard to
lightmann
5/25/20 10:25pm
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