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May 25, 2020
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Soupie
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Might not be 90% but think it's still a fair point.
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Will mark popes teams have less LDS players on them than his predecessors?
buckeyecougarguy
5/25/20 10:39am
It seems we've had more honor code / compliance / legal issues with the LDS guys
Jesse Pinkman
5/25/20 10:44am
Yeah we should stop recruiting so many of those guys
icecougar
5/25/20 12:32pm
RE: It seems we've had more honor code / compliance / legal issues with the LDS
buckeyecougarguy
5/25/20 2:32pm
The high school kids will typically be LDS. The transfers won't be as often.
dYrtbYkerYder
5/25/20 10:46am
I’m a hack by thiiiis much.
Soupie
5/25/20 10:47am
RE: I’m a hack by thiiiis much.
icecougar
5/25/20 1:34pm
Only true of transfers. Freshman commits are all mission guys.
Soupie
5/25/20 10:47am
Fewer, you buckeye scallywag! But probably yes.
Lip Gallagher
5/25/20 1:11pm
RE: Fewer, you buckeye scallywag! But probably yes.
buckeyecougarguy
5/25/20 2:44pm
There’s no quota
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 1:21pm
That seems to be the formula. Is it because they think non members couldn’t last
buckeyecougarguy
5/25/20 2:44pm
Probably easier to recruit/evaluate as a transfer
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 7:39pm
The VB team has done well in attracting and maintaining top non-LDS players
Run-DMT
5/25/20 1:50pm
VB is top 5 team and only 50+ teams in Div I/II. They can go after the top
gp232
5/25/20 3:13pm
Non-LDS guys mean winning. There’s only one Mormon Jimmer every 1,000 year. I
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 1:52pm
Danny Ainge, Fred Roberts, Mel Hutchins, Kresimir Cosic, Shawn Bradley,
LV Mike
5/25/20 2:05pm
I agree with you but two of those guys weren’t LDS when they came to BYU
SingleStrapBackpack
5/25/20 2:25pm
None of those were Jimmers and nowhere near able to make us a contender
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 2:34pm
Danny was a Wooden winner - I'm pretty sure any & every team in the country
5thNephi
5/25/20 2:55pm
You’re missing the point. One great player every few decades isn’t gonna move
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 3:33pm
Then you’d think they’d win every year, right? B-ball has far more opportunities for a Cinderella.
Soupie
5/25/20 3:42pm
I didn't miss your point. I disagreed with you. Even if it's true that coach K
5thNephi
5/25/20 3:50pm
Agreed. The key isn’t to just not have members play
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 4:02pm
Agreed. But I think under Pope players like Seljaas, Knell & Nixon
5thNephi
5/25/20 4:12pm
Potentially
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 4:35pm
His roster would have to get loaded down w/ more talent
5thNephi
5/25/20 4:41pm
I like Tripple as well
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 4:46pm
Yeah, he's the Idaho kid I meant. The other one's
5thNephi
5/25/20 4:49pm
I’m 38 however you define young. Jimmer is the most electric College player in
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 10:25pm
Ainge didn’t have a three point line
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 10:27pm
I would take Ainge over any other BYU player except Cosic
dratax
5/25/20 11:13pm
Ainge was Jimmer x2, as a great all around player who had a great NBA career.
LV Mike
5/25/20 4:20pm
Ainge was before my time but I find it hard to believe anyone was more electric
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 7:35pm
Ainge was what Jimmer would have been without the Internet.
ArcticKat
5/25/20 8:22pm
That’s crazy I didn’t realize he was that good. I give Jimmer partial credit for
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 8:53pm
Yikes! You need to do some research & watch some highlights of Ainge. He not only lit up NCAA but played in NBA
Soupie
5/25/20 9:06pm
I knew he was gritty and fierce but there’s something about a slow white guy who
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 9:08pm
Oh sure. It's not a zero sum game. Both can be great but I'd not disrespect Ainge in any way.
Soupie
5/25/20 9:18pm
That’s fair. He’s done a ton of good for BYU’s brand too
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 9:21pm
And there’s a Haws or Toolson every two
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 2:31pm
And we’ve gone how deep in the tournament?
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 2:34pm
This year's team could've easily gone to the Sweet 16.
dYrtbYkerYder
5/25/20 2:51pm
Once every 10 years maybe making sweet 16 is your high watermark
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 3:32pm
Why would that be his high mark? Those weren't even Pope's recruits
5thNephi
5/25/20 4:36pm
It’s simply not plausible to think a bunch of white LDS kids can load the team
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 7:36pm
You're naïve about college ball. Bluebloods DON'T monopolize the tourney.
5thNephi
5/25/20 7:50pm
No you’re making my point. I believe in Pope and think BYU can get it done. Not
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 8:38pm
That hasn't been your only point, though. I don't think anyone's arguing w you
5thNephi
5/25/20 9:01pm
My only point in this is if we recruit only LDS guys we’re never going to be
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 9:13pm
Well then we still disagree. Cuz I believe we can be elite simply by landing
5thNephi
5/25/20 9:20pm
Yeah agree to disagree. I think if you put all the best all time LDS players on
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 9:29pm
Our very best all-time would be a very athletic team, bud.
5thNephi
5/25/20 9:32pm
?
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 9:32pm
Kresmir, Fred Roberts, Russ Larsen, Mika (we'll even leave Bradley & Yo out)
5thNephi
5/25/20 9:38pm
Travis Hansen and Ainge together
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 9:57pm
No dude you either don’t know BYU basketball that well or have some bias
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 9:56pm
I’m just saying those guys aren’t breezing past Duke etc. I do have a soft spot
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 10:06pm
You’re incorrect. A BYU all time team would be the best team in NCAA about
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 10:23pm
98/100 is a remarkable team. I have a great idea and I’m going to agree with you
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 10:38pm
Well there you are. Hello you. It's nice not to be judgmental, isn't it?
5thNephi
5/25/20 10:44pm
I think we should try to keep them out of the entire state if possible
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 10:48pm
Or there's that option too, I suppose.
5thNephi
5/25/20 10:59pm
You know I’m being sarcastic right??
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:05pm
Yeah, but to the wrong people. Who on this thread besides you is making that pt?
5thNephi
5/25/20 11:07pm
Nobody is. He’s set up a boogeyman that’s isn’t there and arguing with it
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:10pm
The OP?
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:11pm
Not really. He’s just worried a Crowton situation will happen
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:21pm
Fair. Not really a concern for me. Pope will run a tight ship and football
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:27pm
I guess maybe I got into your conversation mid-drift
5thNephi
5/25/20 11:25pm
Yeah you make some good points. As a non-mormon who went to BYU I can assure you
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:30pm
Might not be 90% but think it's still a fair point.
Soupie
5/25/20 11:33pm
Let’s just say I felt like I met every non-mormon graduate student from every
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:40pm
It’s certainly true that when their religion doesn’t explicitly require that the
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:48pm
Knew at least one about 3-4 yrs ago. None of us can guarantee that but fairly certain.
Soupie
5/25/20 11:58pm
I don’t think 90%+ is even close at all
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:40pm
From my experience it was. I did not meet one non-LDS person who kept the honor
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:42pm
Oh wait sorry I thought you said Mormons
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:45pm
I'd believe the football insider prob has a good feel for the high
5thNephi
5/25/20 11:49pm
Huh? Football insider?
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:52pm
I guess I mixed you up w another poster perhaps?
5thNephi
5/25/20 11:54pm
I’m no insider 😂😂
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:57pm
Coffee (& a wee bit of porn) were my only naughties — but even the coffee
5thNephi
5/26/20 12:10am
This is a waay off topic and a bit of a rant on my part but I always found
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:55pm
That’s a fair criticism. Think most of us demonize another person’s sins & tend to
Soupie
5/26/20 12:06am
You have an agenda and are putting words in my mouth
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:01pm
I’m not so many words you said we should stop focusing on non-LDS players
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:05pm
Bull. Link a post that says that.
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 11:09pm
That’s my B. I confused you with OP
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:13pm
I never said that’s the only thing you need
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 3:39pm
Huh? BYU will always have LDS kids but if we’re going to be elite they LDS kids
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 9:03pm
I completely disagree
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 9:35pm
Now throw in LDS guys we didn't get at BYU--- ie--Jackson & Parker. You'd have a very skilled, very athletic team there.
Soupie
5/25/20 9:48pm
If we think we can start out recruiting Duke I’m onboard
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 10:18pm
That wasn't the discussion though. We were talking about the hypothetical of getting all the best LDS players to BYU.
Soupie
5/25/20 10:23pm
I’ll give you the all-time team. BYU for the most part does get the best LDS
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 10:50pm
Those exceptions would make a pretty big difference added to the all-stars though.
Soupie
5/25/20 11:08pm
Mika left and anyone NBA ready which h wasn’t would too. Is your stance also
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 10:09pm
Mika would’ve been fantastic as a JR. Go watch his Zags highlights
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 10:17pm
I’m close to the Mika situation. He left because he saw it as a set number of
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 10:20pm
Yes but he left because he didn’t think he’d improve a lot and have team success
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 10:29pm
This is a bad take. There's a Mormon Jimmer every 30 years (Ainge), but there's
dYrtbYkerYder
5/25/20 2:50pm
And when has BYU ever been a powerhouse b-ball school in the last 100-500 years?
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 3:31pm
There was 1 non-LDS contributor on last year’s team that was a legit sweet 16
StantonMac
5/25/20 4:08pm
Yolie wasn’t initially
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 7:32pm
But he also grew up in Utah and was very familiar with the culture
StantonMac
5/25/20 7:39pm
That’s not the point. The point is about only recruiting LDS guys.
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 8:38pm
Who cares?
HiyaBuddy
5/25/20 4:54pm
Probably the church, the university, the athletic department, donors, the board
buckeyecougarguy
5/25/20 5:41pm
I don’t care about LDS kids. I’m not LDS and I went to BYU and I think your post
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 7:33pm
I think you need to reread not looking for offense
puntersarepeople
5/25/20 7:43pm
No it’s offensive. I loved 95% of the people I met at BYU but 5% were the same
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 7:54pm
here’s things I’m not saying
buckeyecougarguy
5/25/20 10:29pm
I just don’t think non-LDS guys were interested in Rose. Stylistically and hype
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:08pm
Those people only care to the point recruits & athletes follow the HC. I imagine they're thrilled to have non-members
Soupie
5/25/20 7:57pm
I agree with this. I was trying hard to not write a list of LDS players who got
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 8:13pm
When Kalani took over for Bronco, there was a battle cry from Kalani that he
Lance71
5/25/20 8:26pm
Read closely, those aren't mutually exclusive statements. But the emphases are a
5thNephi
5/25/20 9:03pm
Fair point here. I think Broncos teams were better because of some of the
ChiTownCougarV2
5/25/20 11:15pm
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