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Mar 28, 2020
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Gentleman Stan
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True. And being the iron horse of career sluggers is quite the feat.
That's what Hank is remembered for.
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Barry Bonds belongs in the HOF,
a priori
3/28/20 10:20am
He’s the scapegoat of the mlb. He was amazing.
blackandblue
3/28/20 10:21am
He didn't do roids? How is he the scapegoat? Are
Plato
3/28/20 10:22am
I think roids were widespread. Just like Lance Armstrong in cycling.
blackandblue
3/28/20 10:25am
We should still not reward those who cheated — regardless of who else did it.
NorCal Cougar
3/28/20 10:36am
yet the MLB won’t take the trophy from the astros...
blackandblue
3/28/20 10:39am
Doesn't change this argument though. MLB probably should have come harder down
NorCal Cougar
3/28/20 10:40am
He was the worst roider in history. It completely changed his body and ability
Zak
3/28/20 10:30am
It changed his ability to recover not play
ALC
3/28/20 11:31am
"Roids don't help you hit a baseball better." You sound like the Astros owner.
COACHdrn
3/28/20 11:55am
SMH apples and oranges
ALC
3/28/20 4:45pm
McGwire, Sosa, Canseco, Bagwell, and Caminiti would like a word 🙂
BYU1982
3/28/20 11:32am
Worst as in best? What do you mean?
Memmo
3/29/20 10:06am
So does Mark McGwire
cougarfann888
3/28/20 10:22am
Agreed
a priori
3/28/20 10:22am
Mark was nothing without roids. Bonds was amazing before roids.
shimmy
3/28/20 10:23am
Wrong, McGwire held the rookie record for home runs with 49
RC Vikings
3/28/20 10:27am
The 33 HR clip and .800ish OPS over the next 5 years say differently.
shimmy
3/28/20 10:32am
33 hr a year isn't nothing, that's Dale Murphy numbers and he had a nice
RC Vikings
3/28/20 10:40am
33/year and.800 ops doesn't get you close to the HOF unless you do it for 20 years.
shimmy
3/28/20 10:42am
Even if it doesn't get you in the HOF it's not nothing like you said
RC Vikings
3/28/20 10:47am
You're correct. He want nothing. Just a forgettable career. And obviously still a great accomplishment
shimmy
3/28/20 10:57am
Bonds hit 31.7 HR/year prior to age 35.
Gentleman Stan
3/28/20 11:00am
Yeah, but Bonds was a 5 tool player. He had 3 mvps, 8 ggs, and was in the 400/400 club at the same time.
shimmy
3/28/20 11:04am
It's true, and this may be the only time I admit it on CB.
Gentleman Stan
3/28/20 11:20am
Hank Aaron was a 33 hr a year guy, he just did it for 23 years.
RC Vikings
3/28/20 11:04am
True. And being the iron horse of career sluggers is quite the feat.
Gentleman Stan
3/28/20 11:22am
Best player of my lifetime. He and Clemens must get in.
Revolution
3/28/20 10:22am
Not gonna happen on the traditional ballot. Some committee will do it eventually.
shimmy
3/28/20 10:24am
If Ortiz or ARod get in, and not one of those two, I’ll cancel my membership to
Revolution
3/28/20 10:28am
Ortiz will fly in first ballot.
TCuz
3/28/20 10:29am
Papi is a slam dunk. Which is the stupidest thing ever. How a voter could vote for papi and not bonds defies logic.
shimmy
3/28/20 10:33am
Best player of everybody’s lifetime.
TCuz
3/28/20 10:26am
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Memmo
3/29/20 10:10am
I’m not sure Clemens was a HOFer before roids.
Memmo
3/29/20 10:10am
I don’t believe pro sports should allow steroid use, however, Steroids didn’t make Bonds who he was. Lots of people
Zach Morris
3/28/20 10:24am
Roids definitely made Barry who he was post 35. There is before and after data. He was good enough pre 35 to get in the
shimmy
3/28/20 10:26am
I took that to mean that roids didn't make BB a HOFer.
a priori
3/28/20 10:27am
As a measuring stick, pre-steroids Bonds was much, much better than than Griffey’s entire career
TCuz
3/28/20 10:30am
Also, #Griffeyjuiced
shimmy
3/28/20 10:36am
How dare you Shimmy. How dare you.
Gentleman Stan
3/28/20 11:01am
Roids didn’t hurt, that’s for sure. But lots of guys, even pro athletes use or used steroids and couldn’t sniff Barry’s
Zach Morris
3/28/20 10:30am
Why start going to the level he went to with roids if he was already a HOFer?
Zak
3/28/20 10:36am
Because he was the best and McGwire and Sosa got all the attention anyway
TCuz
3/28/20 10:39am
Because he was the best player in baseball and nobody cares because mcgwire and Sosa were hitting tanks non stop.
shimmy
3/28/20 10:40am
I get that, but to not think it would ever catch up with him? And it begs the
Zak
3/28/20 10:52am
Two words- Harold Baines.. to have baines and not bonds in is the biggest joke
cougfanz
3/28/20 10:25am
Greatest player ever
Triznaynay
3/28/20 10:28am
I don't like Barry, especially since guys like him are why Dale Murphy got the
wabluecoug
3/28/20 10:33am
Mussina?
TCuz
3/28/20 10:40am
I've never heard that. And pudge/piazza escaped any testing and implication so I can't hold it against them.
shimmy
3/28/20 10:43am
For head size
Bob Vance
3/28/20 10:36am
The real shame with Bonds, ARod and Clemens is they didn't need it
RC Vikings
3/28/20 10:37am
He cheated and lied about it. It doesn't matter how good he was, he should not
NorCal Cougar
3/28/20 10:38am
The key is this: His career would probably have been much shorter and his
mrphotogenic
3/28/20 10:39am
I agree, he absolutely does.
CoachSpeak
3/28/20 10:41am
He deserves it for what he did on steroids
Josef K
3/28/20 10:45am
Everyone was using roids and he was the best. If everyone is cheating the same
cougarfann888
3/28/20 10:49am
Would you give Lance Armstrong back his TDF titles?
RC Vikings
3/28/20 10:53am
Cheaters are lame
acougfan
3/28/20 10:53am
You must not like the nfl then. Without steroids 60%+ of those guys wouldn’t be there.
Zach Morris
3/28/20 11:02am
Yep- cheaters are lame
acougfan
3/28/20 11:06am
What are you’d thoughts about or beloved cougs who end their football season in December or January
Zach Morris
3/28/20 11:11am
Are they cheating? If they cheat, then they are lame... cheaters are lame
acougfan
3/28/20 11:14am
Pete Rose goes in first
Lifi
3/28/20 10:55am
Not before Shoeless Joe.
mrphotogenic
3/28/20 10:56am
Concerned that HOF honor will descend to the level of the Nobel
gingi
3/28/20 11:24am
C-H-E-A-T-ER
BYU Grounds
3/28/20 11:49am
Sid Bream.
COACHdrn
3/28/20 11:53am
I think Judas should go to heaven too... For work done as an apostle before.
SafetyFirst
3/28/20 1:05pm
Disagree completely. Look at the size he was in 91 vs. the year he retired.
RockyTopCougar
3/28/20 1:21pm
I don’t have a problem with him not making the HOF
D.T. Survivor
3/28/20 1:30pm
I would say Pete Rose too.
sah22
3/28/20 1:48pm
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